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rcooke is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
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Henry Valenzano CMI (Hank) Double Check Home Inspection LLC. http://www.conservweb.com/forum/ www.DCHI.com Hank@DCHI.com 719-635-6425 |
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disappointed. Nothing says that a person has to do anything. I appreciate everything you have been doing. John McKenna, CMI
Executive Director - Master Inspector Certification Board Inspector - Instructor - Thermographer (TREC #4565) 25 Yrs Constr Exp - 11 Yrs Home Inspector Exp American Home Inspection - East Texas. |
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All,
A CMI may include ay or all association affilliations he/she wants to within their individual brochure and marketing schemes. There s no requirement for a CMI only brochure, nor will anyone run afoul if they include the NACHI, ASHI, NAHI, or any other COE they follow in their brochures. Advertising a CMI status is voluntary. How one does it is up to them. If John wants to include the NACHI logo and SOP he may. CMI is not an organization. It is a designation. |
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Back to the Brochure
Too much data for person to read Sorry I don't have a better idea rlb |
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Henry,
Remember, John may include NACHI in his brochure, just as an ASHI member may put ASHI in his brochure. Encouraging the inclusion of association logos will not harm CMI, it will strengthen it. Then, and only then, will people begin to see the CMI logo in wide use. They will see it as a common thread, independent of association-only tie-ins. If 40 different association member-inspectors, who are all CMIs, include a CMI logo alongside their association logos (all different associatons, again) , and one were to line every single brochure side by side, and marched 100 people past these brochures, they will all note that each brochure had a common logo: CMI John has developed a basic template. There needs to be creative license. We will not sanction a single format or content path. John's brochure s a template available to use... or not use. An ASHI member can take it, and substitute ASHI for the NACHI stuff. |
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Henry Valenzano CMI (Hank) Double Check Home Inspection LLC. http://www.conservweb.com/forum/ www.DCHI.com Hank@DCHI.com 719-635-6425 |
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whandley is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Hey John is this the brochure or flyer that Robert was working on for CMI and the ITA Expo? I thought it was. That's why I personally was questioning why NACHI is so visible in the template.
I disagree with Joe F. regarding CMI and NACHI. Right now they appear to be one and the same to almost everyone except the CMI Ownership/Management. I feel as a CMI designee the best way for me to benefit from CMI is for it to be completely independent, it continues to have the appearances of a NACHI sister program. I don't quite understand why the CMI Ownership is in denile regarding same. Last edited by whandley; 8/24/07 at 12:20 AM.. |
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Try some of these
House Un-Inspected = Investment Neglected Board Certified Inspected as if I was buying it for you The best of the best rlb |
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We know it will be for all association. Thats what i have been pushing for for the last year. Henry Valenzano CMI (Hank) Double Check Home Inspection LLC. http://www.conservweb.com/forum/ www.DCHI.com Hank@DCHI.com 719-635-6425 |
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seem to worry about what the other associations thought, but was only concerned about marketing CMI to the market that would pay him. Other inspectors do not hire us, so why worry about them? Some of them will find fault no matter how well CMI presents itself, so don't worry about them anymore. We don't need to prove anything to anyone. I do not have a vision for CMI to covert it's distracters from other HI associations. No, CMI will prevail by bringing in those who are not part of the childlike inspector wars, but those who have come to realize that CMI is a tool to market to the paying consumer. That is all that matters. I heard one inspector say the other day that he did not think the CMI designation was worth much, but he saw other inspectors making a profit because of it. So he joined anyway, because he said he did not want to see all the money passing him by. He was a smart man. He was converted by his pocket book first and then his heart followed. Some follow their heart first, but regardless, CMI is the 900 pound gorilla who has come to town. CMI does not need to convert it's critics, but will prevail in spite of them. CMI will continue to appear friendly to NACHI as well as appearing friendly to anyone who wants to put their association next to it. CMI does not need to convert it's critics, but will prevail inspite of them. It is a self defeating trap to spend all your efforts trying to gain the approval of your distracters. We don't need their advise or their approval. CMI is a benefit at my house first... and for that reason it will spread like a fire to each who enjoy it's benefit. That is simply the truth. While some are saying it will not work, I am laughing all the way to the bank. John McKenna, CMI
Executive Director - Master Inspector Certification Board Inspector - Instructor - Thermographer (TREC #4565) 25 Yrs Constr Exp - 11 Yrs Home Inspector Exp American Home Inspection - East Texas. Last edited by jmckenna1; 8/24/07 at 12:48 AM.. |
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whandley is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
I saw a CMI promotion the other day that was on a ASHI page. At this
time most CMI have come out of the ranks of NACHI, but that does not harm CMI. No one is in a state of denial, but on the contrary, why should we worry anymore if CMI appears to be friends with all that embraces it.? CMI is a sister to anyone who wants it. It's like asking an ASHI, NAHI or CREIA member to join NACHI... They won't do it. I believe the ASHI members who currently hold a CMI designation also hold a NACHI membership. Here in California CREIA has its own Master Inspector designation as well. I had hoped CMI would stand alone as a designation, it won't if you keep hitching the CMI wagon to NACHI's bumper.... Check out the CREIA Master Inspector information. Any of it look or sound familiar? http://www.creia.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3308 To be successful, CMI must be embraced and respected by the entire industry not just the NACHI 100.... Last edited by whandley; 8/24/07 at 2:02 AM.. |
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whandley is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Hey Henry;
Don't worry about that CMI NACHI brochure to much. Check out the ITA Expo website vendor listings: http://www.home-inspect.com/expo/exhibitors.asp |
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has not come to pass yet. I appreciate your concern but listen to me please. You must first have a small group of dedicated disciples to bring in the masses. NACHI's kindness to CMI is a help and not a hindrance, especially at this time of CMI's birthing. Let's be real here. There is a small but very vocal group of anti-NACHI inspectors in each of these other HI association. We do NOT have to make these little groups happy so that they will somehow look at CMI as a blemish free designation. In their eyes it will always have the NACHI blemish, no matter what you do to improve CMI. Once you accept that reality you can move on. Is there growth for CMI beyond these little anit-NACHI groups? YES. Listen to me please. Stop for a minute. Are we suppose to tell all the other HI associations that they can treat CMI as a friendly designation? YES. Then are we suppose to turn around and tell NACHI members to be careful and not be too public in how friendly they treat CMI because that could cause the other HI associations to not like CMI? NO. That is the trap of living in the fear filled state of mind, controlled by the vocal minority of anit-NACHI bashers. They are the little people. Forget them and don't hook your boat to them at all. They are dead in the water and will be spewing the same words all the way to the poor farm. NACHI members and ALL associations can be free to treat CMI as friendly and freely as they want to, without fear it will somehow hurt CMI. I will not accept the idea that I cannot encourage NACHI members to put CMI on a NACHI BROCHURE. I will tell ASHI members to put CMI on their Brochure, so why not NACHI too? If we wait for the day that the vocal minority of internet NACHI bashers are going to accept CMI... then we have set the wrong goal. It's a trap, based on fear. It was the whole premise of Mr Rowboat 's (you know who I mean) approach, but it was flawed. CMI does not need anyone. It will grow based on it's own merit. It produces results for each individual, with or without the other associations approval. I see this clearly. CMI's strength as a designation is the power of it's marketing communication. It is not dependent on ASHI, NAHI, or anyone else's approval. They need CMI. CMI does not need them. It is an earned designation and not just anyone can have it. Nuff said. Now let it fly and it will do it's thing very well. It's easy for me because I can see past the fear of their imaginary rejection. Their rejection is on the contrary, the very evidence of CMI's power to provoke. They fight what they fear. I do not fight them, because they are not a threat to me. CMI is working already. We are not waiting for it to work. LOL... I am happy for the Master CREIA inspector, but they are not even a speed bump to CMI. There are thousands of inspectors all over north America who just need to hear about CMI. I have never tried to convert someone to my church, from another church. There are too many other people out there, than for me to worry about those tiny numbers. And, they usually don't help the church much anyway. We always called them "re-treads". They are the last thing on my mind. Does this help you understand what I am saying... (I have used the church example to help illustrate my point) To be truthful, I am glad that my local competition has not figured out what CMI can do for them. It makes it better for me. LOL... But I know that will not last forever. Also consider this.... CMI is suppose to be a designation that only 5% of the industry can qualify for. This is never going to be a gang buster explosion of growth. It is suppose to be a designation to glean the quality inspectors from among the fields of many. I don't live in a make believe world that this will turn into a mega movement. By it's very nature it was never intended for that. It's suppose to be limited. BTW... thanks for all your help, Will. I respect and value your opinions. John McKenna, CMI
Executive Director - Master Inspector Certification Board Inspector - Instructor - Thermographer (TREC #4565) 25 Yrs Constr Exp - 11 Yrs Home Inspector Exp American Home Inspection - East Texas. Last edited by jmckenna1; 8/24/07 at 3:44 AM.. |
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John
I'm not worried about all of the associations being on the brochures. I encourage it. My company brochure has had that since CMI came to be. All i am saying is for designing the CMI brochure we need the basic CMI one first. Its just like installing a drainage system for a house. You install the main drain first then you add the fixtures to it. If you set all the fixtures first they look pretty but they don't work. Will At the conference we will be right next to NACHI but we will have a different look. NACHI has a black back drop and CMI has a blue back drop with a 3ft CMI seal plus your banner. You can see what it looks like on the CMI Message Board. Henry Valenzano CMI (Hank) Double Check Home Inspection LLC. http://www.conservweb.com/forum/ www.DCHI.com Hank@DCHI.com 719-635-6425 |
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