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Old 8/24/07, 11:56 AM
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I'm not worried about all of the associations being on the brochures. I encourage it. My company brochure has had that since CMI came to be. All i am saying is for designing the CMI brochure we need the basic CMI one first. Its just like installing a drainage system for a house. You install the main drain first then you add the fixtures to it. If you set all the fixtures first they look pretty but they don't work.

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At the conference we will be right next to NACHI but we will have a different look. NACHI has a black back drop and CMI has a blue back drop with a 3ft CMI seal plus your banner. You can see what it looks like on the CMI Message Board.
The CMI back drop looks nice. Why does it say it will only be for Colorado?

Also... Is it possible to put the CMI logo on your forum Hank?



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Old 8/24/07, 11:58 AM
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I'm thinking about CMI as a marketing campaign for my inspection business. I don't care if other inspectors are interested, but I'm certainly interested in how realtors and the home buying public views CMI. That for me is where the other inspection orgs. come into play. In California CREIA/ASHI has 100% exposure, NACHI has zero... The CREIA/ASHI Master Inspector designation likewise has a big head start. CMI actually garners more interest over NACHI here in California, simply because it reads, "Certified Master Inspector", which anyone can relate to as opposed to the HI org. itself. Again, my belief is to gain the maximum benefit from CMI, it should stand completely independent of NACHI. I've already had one agent ask me if each HI org. has it's own Master Inspector designation. Now, I know you all believe that CMI is independent, but the MICB and NACHI having almost identical ownership and management would state to the public otherwise.

I'm getting the idea that forming CMI was NACHI's way of keeping up the CREIA, ASHI, etc.. in the continuing marketing battle for position in the home inspection industry. Since NACHI doesn't have levels of membership, this is a way for our more experienced members to keep up with CREIA/ASHI. I can live with that. I was hoping CMI could incorporate a broader base, which would give it more exposure, which would make it more well known to agents, which eventually would trickle down to the buyers, which then falls in my lap.

As usual, I'm going to need to pound the pavement....

What a surprise!

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Old 8/24/07, 12:06 PM
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I'm thinking about CMI as a marketing campaign for my inspection business. I don't care if other inspectors are interested, but I'm certainly interested in how realtors and the home buying public views CMI. That for me is where the other inspection orgs. come into play. In California CREIA/ASHI has 100% exposure, NACHI has zero... The CREIA/ASHI Master Inspector designation likewise has a big head start. CMI actually garners more interest over NACHI here in California, simply because it reads, "Certified Master Inspector", which anyone can relate to as opposed to the HI org. itself. Again, my belief is to gain the maximum benefit from CMI, it should stand completely independent of NACHI. I've already had one agent ask me if each HI org. has it's own Master Inspector designation. Now, I know you all believe that CMI is independent, but the MICB and NACHI having almost identical ownership and management would state to the public otherwise.
I agree if a person uses and wish to the can over print their own information and add their associations if the wish just make sure it is either different print or colour . My thoughts .
. Cookie........... I do think the pick up our business is from being a CMI



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Old 8/24/07, 12:07 PM
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The CMI back drop looks nice. Why does it say it will only be for Colorado?

Also... Is it possible to put the CMI logo on your forum Hank?
It says basically Colorado because i cant afford to ship it all over. it weight is 90 lbs. and cost about 95.00 to mail it.

As far as the logo it states in the pole. i am waiting for every one to vote on the skin and the tag line. so far i think only 5 people have voted out of 300.



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Old 8/24/07, 12:35 PM
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Some of the skins already have the Logo on them. But the forum is in php and I am just learning to work with that. the software that i had to buy to work with php is not easy to learn ether. Im not a programmer im an inspector. So after everyone decides all i have to do is set up one. there is about 6 choices check them out some of them are really cool.



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Old 8/24/07, 12:45 PM
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It says basically Colorado because i cant afford to ship it all over. it weight is 90 lbs. and cost about 95.00 to mail it.

As far as the logo it states in the pole. i am waiting for every one to vote on the skin and the tag line. so far i think only 5 people have voted out of 300.
To take it to Vegas it is costing me 100.00 to take it on the plane.



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Old 8/24/07, 12:49 PM
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Also John i now have a full database of the CMIs. Valerie was kind enough to get that for me. Well have to go I have a commercial inspection up in Denver.



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Old 8/24/07, 12:59 PM
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Will,

Most consumers and Realtors are not going to go to the CMI web site and
then do a background search on the board of directors to see how many
of them have a NACHI membership... so I think it is a non-issue.

As you market your inspection business to everyone, the CMI designation
adds an extra and immediate benefit, regardless of any previous public
knowledge of it.

CMI will spread out through the natural flow of inspectors taking it to
the streets, as they promote their own business. Those who have it
will be able to cut through the crowded field of competition with a
measurable advantage... IMHO.

BTW... Bob Francis is going to contact you about promoting CMI
with the banner at the Toronto International Home Show (70,000 visitors).

Nice

Hank,

Thanks for your hard work.



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Old 8/24/07, 7:00 PM
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We still need the CMI site and application updated.



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Default Re: CMI Brochure Beta

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Originally Posted by jmckenna1
Will,

Most consumers and Realtors are not going to go to the CMI web site and
then do a background search on the board of directors to see how many
of them have a NACHI membership... so I think it is a non-issue.

As you market your inspection business to everyone, the CMI designation
adds an extra and immediate benefit, regardless of any previous public
knowledge of it.

CMI will spread out through the natural flow of inspectors taking it to
the streets, as they promote their own business. Those who have it
will be able to cut through the crowded field of competition with a
measurable advantage... IMHO.

BTW... Bob Francis is going to contact you about promoting CMI
with the banner at the Toronto International Home Show (70,000 visitors).

Nice

Hank,

Thanks for your hard work.
I'm sorry John,

I'm absolutely horrible at getting my point across sometimes. The agents and clients won't be interested in the CMI ownership, but the largest HI orgs. in california will. That will most definitely prevent for example, CREIA/ASHI experienced inspectors from joining the ranks of CMI. Again, to the clients and agents, having a master inspector designation from CMI/NACHI will not be as well known, recognized and or respected as the other HI's just because of their presence here in California. That doesn't benefit me or the other 8 CMI's here in California. I was hoping that CMI would be like ICC, totally and completely unassocated with any other HI orgs. And, like a lot of other HI's from all the different orgs., I'm an ICC member @ $150 per year....
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Old 8/24/07, 10:15 PM
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I'm sorry John,

I'm absolutely horrible at getting my point across sometimes. The agents and clients won't be interested in the CMI ownership, but the largest HI orgs. in california will.

Some will resist CMI, some will not. That will not affect me or you and
will not affect CMI's long term growth. Stop thinking of things to
worry about.


That will most definitely prevent for example, CREIA/ASHI experienced inspectors from joining the ranks of CMI. Again, to the clients and agents, having a master inspector designation from CMI/NACHI will not be as well known, recognized and or respected as the other HI's just because of their presence here in California.

Most people don't bother to analyses various associations near as much as
you fear they do. It is a non issue.

That doesn't benefit me or the other 8 CMI's here in California. I was hoping that CMI would be like ICC, totally and completely unassocated with any other HI orgs. And, like a lot of other HI's from all the different orgs., I'm an ICC member @ $150 per year....

ICC has never enticed me to join. I think CMI is better. If you think
that all the NACHI members on the CMI board of directors should
quit just to help give the folks in California a better impression, then
you are wanting something that still would not matter much and is not
within the realm of reality. It aint going to happen.
Why create
reasons to worry about something that has not happened?
It's going to work out for good. What if there are inspectors who like
the idea of CMI and what it can do for them and are not filled with
the anti-NACHI poison? The vocal minority has to keep the drum
beat at a great volume, because they are loosing members to NACHI
all the time. Relax.

It would be unfair to NACHI members if we CMI's tip toe around
our relationship with them so as not to offend our critics. I say let
the critics be offended and lets enjoy ourselves. If NACHI members
want a CMI brochure, then let them have one. Go NACHI and
Go CMI.!!!

If some CREIA/ASHI members never join CMI because they think
CMI is too close to NACHI, then who cares? It's like asking me if
some of the fish in the ocean don't bite today... well my goodness,
there are a lot of fish still out there that will.



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Old 8/25/07, 12:10 PM
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John,Hank;
You two guy's are doing a great job for the CMI's.
I think that we should have a basic CMI Brochure with blank area's for the individual to put his or her info as they see fit. I wish I could be more helpful but I am a dummie when it comes to putting stuff in or out of anything with the computer.
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Old 8/25/07, 9:02 PM
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We still need the CMI site and application updated.
The CMI web site and application are being worked on.
The verification process is being worked out.

Life is slow sometimes.

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The CMI web site and application are being worked on.
The verification process is being worked out.

Life is slow sometimes.

John McKenna
But as you know i dont like slow. I always want it last week.



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John,Hank;
You two guy's are doing a great job for the CMI's.
I think that we should have a basic CMI Brochure with blank area's for the individual to put his or her info as they see fit. I wish I could be more helpful but I am a dummie when it comes to putting stuff in or out of anything with the computer.
Regards Len
Yes, agreed.
In the works.



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