CMI imposter?

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by jbraun

Everbody, just keep do not take any legal advice from Dale

Hey James,

Now that you got me thinking.

I'm going to put on my websites I'm a "Arizona Certified Master Inspector"

Even if I don't think anybody really is, using the term "Master".

But as everybody has said all along, CMI is just a marketing gimmick....or sentence someone states to the public so the public thinks (perceives) they are like a "Master Plumber" Master Carpenter", etc.

ACMI, Arizona Certified Master Inspector..................

Hell, I might as well add this idea to my websites, the Presale Inspection idea sure as hell isn't working...................

But the Commercial inspection business is great, and the Investors are coming out of their closets to buy distressed properties......business is great...... .....gotta love it...........

But....

If someone called me "just" because they saw "Arizona Certified Master Inspector" on one of my website, hell, every inspection counts...............

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by dvalley

DO NOT USE BLEACH TO KILL MOLD

Mold Remediation/Cleanup and Biocides
The purpose of mold remediation is to remove the mold to prevent human exposure and damage to building materials and furnishings. It is necessary to clean up mold contamination, not just to kill the mold. Dead mold is still allergenic, and some dead molds are potentially toxic. The use of a biocide, such as chlorine bleach, is not recommended as a routine practice during mold remediation, although there may be instances where professional judgment may indicate its use (for example, when immune-compromised individuals are present). In most cases, it is not possible or desirable to sterilize an area; a background level of mold spores will remain in the air (roughly equivalent to or lower than the level in outside air). These spores will not grow if the moisture problem in the building has been resolved. SOURCE EPA



Shall we discuss this or do you just want to trade links

[Joseph T. Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by dvalley

DO NOT USE BLEACH TO KILL MOLD

MoldAcrossAmerica

Wow man talk about a head trip, my brother was a Roadie for that band back in the 60's, groovy

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

James -

The Great Lakes ASHI Chapter has had a Peer Review Program in place for at least 14 years. The top category in this is a "Master Inspector". Dwight has held this designation for over 10 years that I am personally aware of.

As you know ASHI recently changed their nomenclature of their Members and Candidates. New terminology calls members a "Certified ASHI Inspector".

Their PEER Review process is very STIFF. Most full ASHI Members could not begin to pass it the 1st go around.

[Joseph T. Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by dbowers

James -

The Great Lakes ASHI Chapter has had a Peer Review Program in place for at least 14 years. The top category in this is a "Master Inspector". Dwight has held this designation for over 10 years that I am personally aware of.

As you know ASHI recently changed their nomenclature of their Members and Candidates. New terminology calls members a "Certified ASHI Inspector".

Their PEER Review process is very STIFF. Most full ASHI Members could not begin to pass it the 1st go around.

Up until last year we had a similar program in place at SunCoast ASHI called CPI Certified Professional Inspector but it was voted out by the membership, the peer review process took two years to go through. Seems everyone wants to be a Master today.

[Joe Farsetta]

Bleach absolutely kills mold. Most of the firms touting it does not and should not be used are either producing or hawking an alternate product.

If chlorine bleach was not effective at killing mold, the makers of Tilex would be the subject of numerous lawsuits from consumers to the FTC. Remember, it is sold and advertised as the mold killer, because it is.

If soap and water kills mold, why wouldnt most cleaning products, including a solutioon made with bleach.

If you dont think bleach kills mold, go ahead. In the mean time, it remains one of the most widely used products worldwide in the cleaning and removal of mold from a variety of surfaces. I say surfaces, because once the mold had penetrated, much of the affected areas will likely require removal.

Mold elimination and control never used to be rocket science, until there was panic in the world, and entrepaneurs saw gold with that mold.

BTW... Dale is correct in that Certified Master Inspector is a state-sanctioned and licensed designation. I thought it was in Nevada, however, and not in Arizona.

[Richard L. Bennett]

Back to bleach 101

The main reason bleach is a problem is that the chlorine gas dissipates fast

It is sort of like paint remover that is a liquid and not a paste

Depending on the serface the bleach does not get a chance to penetrate deep enough to do the job

The other products do

Yes, I kills but other products are better

Trust me I live in Florida

Spray bleach once and you better do it again and again

Mix it with a little soap or oil and it says a little longer to do the job

Or just go out and get a better product for the job

rlb

[Nick Gromicko]

The Master Inspector Certification Board has EXCLUSIVE use (see www.USPTO.gov) of the phrase "Certified Master Inspector" in that order and unauthorized use of phrases close to it (deceptively similar) within the same industry (inspection industry) is Trademark infringement. It doesn't matter who incorrectly told you you could willfully infringe on a registered mark... you can't. Putting something before or after the protected mark is still infringement (like trying to sell hamburgers called "Really Big Macs").

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by gromicko

The Master Inspector Certification Board has EXCLUSIVE use (see www.USPTO.gov) of the phrase "Certified Master Inspector" in that order and unauthorized use of phrases close to it (deceptively similar) within the same industry (inspection industry) is Trademark infringement. It doesn't matter who incorrectly told you you could willfully infringe on a registered mark... you can't. Putting something before or after the protected mark is still infringement (like trying to sell hamburgers called "Really Big Macs").

Ok Nick....I'll just use "Arizona Master Inspector"...............

And nobody told me anything.....I was only kidding, I don't consider myself a master, and don't consider anyone else using the your three letters masters either.............

Except John, the cmi pres......I bet he is a great inspector, I can tell by the thoughts in his posts, he's playing with a full deck.....

[Dale Duffy]

BTW... Dale is correct in that Certified Master Inspector is a state-sanctioned and licensed designation. I thought it was in Nevada, however, and not in Arizona.

Hey Nick, you better contact the state of Nevada and tell them they are using your words and better stop it right now............

Good luck.............

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Dan and Dale,
The purpose of this post is that Mr. Barnett calls himself a certified master inspector which he can not because certified master inspector is trademarked. He can call himself a master inspector which he probably is, but he can not call himself a certified master inspector. Him giving bad advise that could effect the health of the public is what I have a problem with. I realize that ASHI members do not have as many great educational opportunities that NACHI members have, but this is no excuse for giving wrong advice in a publicly distributed newspaper. If he is going to keep making wrong statements he needs to do it as a master inspector, not a certified master inspector.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by dduffy

Ok Nick....I'll just use "Arizona Master Inspector"...............

And nobody told me anything.....I was only kidding, I don't consider myself a master, and don't consider anyone else using the your three letters masters either.............

Evidently most of the registered CMIs dont either. of all the CMIs that are registered on this MB and on the CMI MB only about 6 or 7 use the CMI after there name in there signature.

[Joseph T. Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by hvalenzano

Evidently most of the registered CMIs dont either. of all the CMIs that are registered on this MB and on the CMI MB only about 6 or 7 use the CMI after there name in there signature.

I'm considering using it, help me out.

[Henry Valenzano, CMI]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

I'm considering using it, help me out.

I have no control over your signature or what you do. I gave everyone at no charge and asked nothing in return an area to advertise there name and company and no one has opted to use it. Right now is the best time to advertise when the market is slow. When the market returns you will be already be listed in the search engines.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Just to kick it around - ASHI's new designation for Members is:

ASHI Certified Inspector

The Top Designation in the Great Lakes ASHI Chapter's Peer Review Process is:

Master Inspector

I guess that would officially make Mr. Barnett a:

ASHI Certified Inspector / Master Inspector

I'm betting the Newspaper simply shortened it up and took out 1 "Inspector".