If anyone wants CMI but can't afford the one-time $375...

[John McKenna]

CMI communicates in a few seconds what people are looking for.
Very powerful.

CERTIFIED MASTER INSPECTOR

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Very enticing title John.

Is there a variance to the qualifications for the 1000 inspections.
It is not going to happen in my lifetime in this small town.
40 years in Building Construction and 18 months of Inspections with the General Services Administration doesn't count?

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Very enticing title John.

Is there a variance to the qualifications for the 1000 inspections.
It is not going to happen in my lifetime in this small town.
40 years in Building Construction and 18 months of Inspections with the General Services Administration doesn't count?

It is not 1000 inspections.

It is 1000 combined inspections and/or total hours of education.

If that total adds up to 1000, then you are CMI.... plus you need
3 years as a home inspector. I am not sure what the "General
Service Admin." means?

Call me .... 936-546-2435

Good luck.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

So how does the 96,000 hours of education in the Building Industry and the 1000's of hours Inspecting and responsible for inspecting Commercial Projects and the 3000 hours of GSA Inspections for the Government as a Technical Inspector for the Construction Division all equate into this formula?

So if education hours counts, I would think I am there, not?

[Wayne B. Wilson]

Originally Posted by mcyr

So how does the 96,000 hours of education in the Building Industry and the 1000's of hours Inspecting and responsible for inspecting Commercial Projects and the 3000 hours of GSA Inspections for the Government as a Technical Inspector for the Construction Division all equate into this formula?

So if education hours counts, I would think I am there, not?

Your kidding i hope

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Wayne, they called it education hours, isn't the Countruction Industry part of the education?

Isn't inspecting Commercial Projects for the Government part of Education Hours?

Is CEU's that is all part of the Construction Industry part of the Education Hours?

I am not kidding. I would match my wits with any CMI

[Wayne B. Wilson]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Wayne, they called it education hours, isn't the Countruction Industry part of the education?

Isn't inspecting Commercial Projects for the Government part of Education Hours?

Is CEU's that is all part of the Construction Industry part of the Education Hours?

I am not kidding. I would match my wits with any CMI

Marcel
I would hope they would take your back ground with open arms
If anyone on here has more knowledge than you i will bow down to them . I have 23 years in commercial inspections and Preventive maintenance for one of the largest companies in Canada. Including a Gas fitter License Oil Burner class 1 Refrigeration and Electrical . Also i did Fire Inspections for the fire dept.
Then I moved here got my required training plus well over 800 inspections and more home inspection training. I just filled out The CMI application and was going to send it in . But if you cant get i am sure enough not going to get it.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by mcyr

So how does the 96,000 hours of education in the Building Industry and the 1000's of hours Inspecting and responsible for inspecting Commercial Projects and the 3000 hours of GSA Inspections for the Government as a Technical Inspector for the Construction Division all equate into this formula?

So if education hours counts, I would think I am there, not?

We ran into a problem with people wanting to become a CMI
who had never done a home inspection, but had lots of education.
In order to make sure that someone had both education and
field experience, we tried to create a balance and require that
3 years of actual inspection experience would bring that desired
balance between education and experience.

Many who come from the construction background, may indeed
have a strong background and education... but that may not
prepare them for the needed home inspection skills in the
SoP and CoE that we operate within, in order to function within
the proper protocols. Also... searching for defects is a learned
process and a CMI designation should reflect real life experience
and not just those who have read books on the subject.

If being an experienced construction contractor was all that is
needed to be a qualified home inspector, then their would be
no need for any inspectors. But as it plays out in the real
world, we inspectors have our jobs because there are indeed
tons of experienced contractors who are building defects
into their homes.

Thus, experience and education are both needed, as a balance in
the equation, and what makes the most sense to qualify a true
CMI.

I have to admit, there are things that I learned as an inspector,
that I did not learn building houses.

In Texas, even if you have been building houses all your life,
you still need education, experience and testing to become a
home inspector. They also require that you do at least 200
inspection before you are qualified to mentor others. It
is not a perfect system, but it makes sense to qualify people
through education, combined with experience.

The education must be inspector related and the experience
must be fee paid inspections. The 3 years qualification must
be verifiable. Only you know if you have met these conditions
to be a CMI.

I have no idea.

[Wayne B. Wilson]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

We ran into a problem with people wanting to become a CMI
who had never done a home inspection, but had lots of education.
In order to make sure that someone had both education and
field experience, we tried to create a balance and require that
3 years of actual inspection experience would bring that desired
balance between education and experience.

Many who come from the construction background, may indeed
have a strong background and education... but that may not
prepare them for the needed home inspection skills in the
SoP and CoE that we operate within, in order to function within
the proper protocols. Also... searching for defects is a learned
process and a CMI designation should reflect real life experience
and not just those who have read books on the subject.

If being an experienced construction contractor was all that is
needed to be a qualified home inspector, then their would be
no need for any inspectors. But as it plays out in the real
world, we inspectors have our jobs because there are indeed
tons of experienced contractors who are building defects
into their homes.

Thus, experience and education are both needed, as a balance in
the equation, and what makes the most sense to qualify a true
CMI.

I have to admit, there are things that I learned as an inspector,
that I did not learn building houses.

In Texas, even if you have been building houses all your life,
you still need education, experience and testing to become a
home inspector. They also require that you do at least 200
inspection before you are qualified to mentor others. It
is not a perfect system, but it makes sense to qualify people
through education, combined with experience.

The education must be inspector related and the experience
must be fee paid inspections. The 3 years qualification must
be verifiable.

so is there any reason i shouldn't try? before i pay the fee

[Marcel R. Cyr]

John, you need to read my profile in my Compay's web site.

I might be the colored exeption to the rule.

I got bored of building houses when I was 21.

I have been a supervior for over 35 years.

I inspect my own projects for quality and code compliance because of third party inspections.

I trouble shoot Warranty items.

I know what is wrong in any defect you could show me in any full view scenario.
I recognize any misinstalled product, because I know the product, do you.

Now how does that make me not act within the Protocols of the Coe and Sop.?
Just curious.
I have passed both by the way like all others.
I inspect part time, so is that the problem?

My inspection reports are Narrative and 30 pages long and take me four hours to complete and three hours in the field.
$300. Will only do one a day. \

How many do you do in one day?

I don't miss much.

If I do it is usually irrelavant to the condition of the home.

I am sure there are others that fit this scenario.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by mcyr

John, you need to read my profile in my Compay's web site.

I might be the colored exeption to the rule.

I got bored of building houses when I was 21.

I have been a supervior for over 35 years.

I inspect my own projects for quality and code compliance because of third party inspections.

I trouble shoot Warranty items.

I know what is wrong in any defect you could show me in any full view scenario.
I recognize any misinstalled product, because I know the product, do you.

Now how does that make me not act within the Protocols of the Coe and Sop.?
Just curious.
I have passed both by the way like all others.
I inspect part time, so is that the problem?

My inspection reports are Narrative and 30 pages long and take me four hours to complete and three hours in the field.
$300. Will only do one a day. \

How many do you do in one day?

I don't miss much.

If I do it is usually irrelavant to the condition of the home.

I am sure there are others that fit this scenario.

If you feel that you qualify, then submit your application.
It is open to anyone.

BTW.... your reporting and inspecting time sounds like mine.
I do one inspection per day.

I am sure that you felt that you were more qualified to be
a home inspector before you ever did your first inspection,
but so does every other contractor.

I meet them all the time and they always think my report
is incorrect, in spite of the photos.

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Maybe you should come to Maine and see how it is suppose to be done.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Maybe you should come to Maine and see how it is suppose to be done.

I am sure you could show all of us many things and you
are the best inspector.

[Gerold M. Cavallo]

Originally Posted by tspargo

I qualify,

This may sound silly, but for those who are already CMI, have you noted any benefit??

Tough to justify adding more stuff to one's resume in this market, but Nick makes a fair offer.

look forward to replies

Tim

Tim, I have often had calls from clients and asked them - Why did you select me to perform your inspection among everyone else on the list? Reply: Your the only one with the experience and certifications; plus your name is on the top of the list of inspectors. Don't settle for the normal status in the industry because the norm is invisible. Clients want the cream of the crop because - after all they are paying for it. Having the experience and having paid your due with life's experience you can charge for what you say, do and recommend. Have at it and you will see the benefits. By the way: What have you got to loose?

[Keith Runquist]

Thanks Nick. I took you up on your offer and the paperwork is in the mail.