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Old 1/24/11, 11:56 AM
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Hey folks,

I am seriously thinking of going CMI before the price increase, but am still unsure what to do. Bottom line, i need to convince my boss why he needs to spend $350 for me to become CMI. There is currently nobody in Nova Scotia that is CMI, and i believe i would be the first, but what is it really going to do for me? How will it give me more inspections if nobody in the province has heard about it? Maybe I am missing something, but i am having a hard time convincing the boss. Can anyone provide me with some valid success stories in Canada? Thought? Comments? Thanks.



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Old 1/24/11, 12:14 PM
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If I were you...I would show my boss the list of certifications that you presently have under your name (that he presumably paid for) and tell him that every one of them can be obtained by anyone prior to starting a business...but a CMI designation is what sets one apart from the newby with the price tag still hanging from his flashlight...for one must prove three years in business as the first step, along with others, to achieve the designation.

It is not designed to get you more business. That is where your marketing of yourself and your expertise comes in to play. Instead, it is designed to justify, to those who are considering hiring you, why your fees are higher than a less experienced and knowledgable competitor who has acquired the same long list of certifications under his name.

Think of it this way....ASHI branding advertising is designed to send everyone seeking a home inspector to its members. But when I get there, I find an ASHI guy charging $125 for an inspection and another charging $400 for an inspection. Is it not reasonable for me...without any other way of telling them apart....to go with the cheapest guy, assuming that all ASHI members are equal in skill and competence? Likewise, in a licensed state where all inspectors have met the same minimum standards (paying a fee and passing a test)...and one guy will do an inspection, babysit my kids and wash my car for $89 and another guy will only do an inspection, but wants $350....why not pick the babysitter?

CMI is a tool that consumers can use to help them see what they are paying for.



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Old 1/24/11, 2:01 PM
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Real estate agents were slowly turning inspections into a commodity and creating the false belief that inspections should be shopped for like mortgages by comparing rates only.

CMI is the missile that destroys this belief... almost instantly. In three words, the consumer's thinking is corrected and he/she is reminded that there might be something to consider other than lowest price.



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Old 1/24/11, 2:08 PM
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Hey folks,

I am seriously thinking of going CMI before the price increase, but am still unsure what to do. Bottom line, i need to convince my boss why he needs to spend $350 for me to become CMI. There is currently nobody in Nova Scotia that is CMI, and i believe i would be the first, but what is it really going to do for me? How will it give me more inspections if nobody in the province has heard about it? Maybe I am missing something, but i am having a hard time convincing the boss. Can anyone provide me with some valid success stories in Canada? Thought? Comments? Thanks.
Rodney,

As CMI is a marketing designation only, you would need to convince your boss to spend $350/$1000 in marketing you!

Note: there have been many discussions in the last couple of weeks, attempting to get the answer you seek. Look through some threads, and see the answers given, and just as importantly, not given.

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Old 1/24/11, 2:25 PM
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Challenge your boss to reveal where in the world he could invest $375 into his inspection company, that would produce a better ROI. If any inspection company owner is going to invest $375 into their business this year (and I sure hope I'm describing EVERY inspection business owner), CMI is the place to put it.



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Old 1/24/11, 2:38 PM
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Challenge your boss to reveal where in the world he could invest $375 into his inspection company, that would produce a better ROI. If any inspection company owner is going to invest $375 into their business this year (and I sure hope I'm describing EVERY inspection business owner), CMI is the place to put it.
NICK please Shhhhhhhhh why spoil a ggod thing ,

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Old 1/24/11, 2:44 PM
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CMI allows inspectors to set themselves apart from the competition within a couple seconds. Once the consumer finds a CMI, there is nothing else to look at.



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Old 1/24/11, 2:46 PM
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Beyond the hyperbole of the post immediately preceding this one (#7)....since we all know that one can be a total putz and still be a CMI, Senator of a major populated state, dog breeder, or world leader....it is still a means of setting oneself apart and commanding a higher fee.

If your boss wants to charge more for your services...or provide strength to his justification for the current fee...this designation helps.



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Old 1/24/11, 2:55 PM
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If you notice the posts from CMI's, there is a big difference in knowledge, understanding and care and that is why we charge more,deserve more and have more.



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Old 1/24/11, 3:02 PM
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Your boss cannot make a $375 decision on marketing? Maybe the wrong person is the boss.

Consider doing inspections on your own. This type of mentality will only lead down the wring path. Its only $375 for the next two weeks. Its not if he can afford it, it weather he can afford NOT TO.



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Old 1/24/11, 3:07 PM
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Beyond the hyperbole of the post immediately preceding this one (#7)....since anyone with two active brain cells knows that one can be a total putz and still be a CMI, Senator of a major populated state, dog breeder, or world leader....it is a means of setting oneself apart and commanding a higher fee.

If your boss wants to charge more for your services...or provide strength to his justification for the current fee...this designation helps.
Is this your view of our current president?



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Old 1/24/11, 3:41 PM
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If you notice the posts from CMI's, there is a big difference in knowledge, understanding and care and that is why we charge more,deserve more and have more.
Care to explain the CMI's who ask silly questions about temporary roof bracing that is actually ridge and hip bracing intended to be there and most likely dictated on the plans?

I see dumber questions out of some of the CMI's than anyone else.



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Old 1/24/11, 3:45 PM
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Care to explain the CMI's who ask silly questions about temporary roof bracing that is actually ridge and hip bracing intended to be there and most likely dictated on the plans?

I see dumber questions out of some of the CMI's than anyone else.
George can you also show some of these Dumb questions .

Can some one show me this post .

I tend to think there are usually three sides to all stories and seeing this would help me to see what was said . Thanks ... Roy



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Old 1/24/11, 5:49 PM
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Care to explain the CMI's who ask silly questions about temporary roof bracing that is actually ridge and hip bracing intended to be there and most likely dictated on the plans?

I see dumber questions out of some of the CMI's than anyone else.
If you think CMIs got answers to all questions, than you will never be happy with any CMI. CMIs know to become better at their profession, they have to ask questions. Their is no such thing as a dumb question.
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Old 1/24/11, 6:40 PM
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Their is no such thing as a dumb question.
I agree with you.

In my opinion, many of the questions that are asked result from an observation of a defect that was left behind by a contractor who undoubtedly "knows everything".

Amazingly, when some of these very same contractors can no longer make a living at their trade...they become home inspectors who "know everything".

A miracle of nature, I presume.



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