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[ldapkus]

Originally Posted by Mark Adamson

Actually they are not. FLIR cameras are manufactured in Sweeden

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...6/ai_115396463

Sorry,
They are repaired here in OUR country. Please spend your money on the Chinese crap and let us know how it works for you. Have you solicited any feedback from any infrared technology forums regarding these cameras?

[Peter C. Russell]

Originally Posted by dvalley

Yes, they are indeed manufactured in Swedan.

My question is...Does RazIR offer training?

What good is an IR camera if you can't read and interpret it properly?

But repaired and re-calibrate in North Billerica Mass. A mere 1 hour ride for me.

[ekartal6]

And I was with Larry when he said it...

The camera is sent to China for repairs and may take a very long time to get it back.

[John McKenna]

Slow boat to China? LOL...

[Peter C. Russell]

Besides, who would buy a camera that support the Chinese economy anyway!!!

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by prussell

But repaired and re-calibrate in North Billerica Mass. A mere 1 hour ride for me.

Yes, Flir is a very popular manufacturer and it's a simple 20 minute drive, if I happen to run into any issues with my ThermaCam B-2.

They are my neighbors.

[David P. Valley]

Originally Posted by Sam Beasley

I'm currently shopping around...

There is an option with the RAZIR camera called a VIP Warranty that provides you with a loaner unit within 24 hours - for a fee of course - but it lessened my concerns about warranty repair issues.

Worth repeating....

Does RazIR offer training?

What good is an IR camera if you can't read and interpret it properly?

[Mark Adamson]

Originally Posted by lkage

One of the guys in our BS training recently had one and Scott Wood (Instructor) reminded everyone that a camera made in China will drop into a black hole time-wise when it needs repairs

Scott Wood works for FLIR. Of course he would talk down the RAZ-IR

I would bet that if you take any thermal camera apart the majority of the parts are made in chnia. (LCD screens resistors, injection moulded housings, batteries)

Before we spiral into a heated debated about this - lets step back and take a breath to reflect.

1. Virtaully every consumer electronic item you own is made in whole or in part in china.

2. Almost every consumer non-electronic item you own was made in whole or in part in china. ( i just checked my red Swingline Stapler....and sure enough it is made in China)

3. The fact is the chinnese clearly can produce all the products that you and I love better, cheaper and faster than any manufacture can in the United States of America.

4. Our 2 countries are inextricably linked. China is the ultimate producer and America is the ultimate consumer.

The real debate is not not USA vs. China - but the all american small business man vs. the large multinational corporate entities. I would venture that all of us involved in this discussion (including Scott) would be considered small business men.

I can understand the concerns, but i don't see any difference in buying a sweedish camera from a US company that stands behind it or a buying a camera made in China from a US company that stands behind it.

I came here looking for good advice and i thank you all. So far the consensus seems to be if you work for or were trained by ITC (FLIR) or if you live around the corner from them you tend to favor their products.

Everyone i've talked to who have a RAZ-IR, seems to like it -i guess the research continues...

Peace and Love,
Mark

[Larry D. Kage]

As I said...

Originally Posted by lkage

Mark, the information that a long time industry expert, with experience in this matter, shared with our class and I shared here is meant to help people make decisions on camera purchases. Use it as you wish.

[ddelaney]

Thanks guys. I have been digging around, and uncovered some very good information. Turns out the SPI salesman will say just about anything to get the sale, but the repair portion of their warranty and non-warranty concerns really stinks.

I also uncovered some pretty good data on its specifications. Although it appears to out-perform many of the other models, with the screen size and some other items, it doesn't appear to be applicable for the use that most of us would require.

I really appreciate all of the pm's, and other input!!!

Dave

[Chuck Lambert]

Originally Posted by Mark Adamson

Scott Wood works for FLIR. Of course he would talk down the RAZ-IR

I would bet that if you take any thermal camera apart the majority of the parts are made in chnia. (LCD screens resistors, injection moulded housings, batteries)

Before we spiral into a heated debated about this - lets step back and take a breath to reflect.

1. Virtaully every consumer electronic item you own is made in whole or in part in china.

2. Almost every consumer non-electronic item you own was made in whole or in part in china. ( i just checked my red Swingline Stapler....and sure enough it is made in China)

3. The fact is the chinnese clearly can produce all the products that you and I love better, cheaper and faster than any manufacture can in the United States of America.

4. Our 2 countries are inextricably linked. China is the ultimate producer and America is the ultimate consumer.

The real debate is not not USA vs. China - but the all american small business man vs. the large multinational corporate entities. I would venture that all of us involved in this discussion (including Scott) would be considered small business men.

I can understand the concerns, but i don't see any difference in buying a sweedish camera from a US company that stands behind it or a buying a camera made in China from a US company that stands behind it.

I came here looking for good advice and i thank you all. So far the consensus seems to be if you work for or were trained by ITC (FLIR) or if you live around the corner from them you tend to favor their products.

Everyone i've talked to who have a RAZ-IR, seems to like it -i guess the research continues...

Peace and Love,
Mark

Mark,
If you want an UNBIASED opinion about what cameras are out there and which ones to look into go to http://www.thesnellgroup.com/ and ask there. The info there is great!! They actually have a webinar on which camera for what application. Fluke, FLIR, Mikron, Hot Shot, Razor and a few others all have cameras. It is like Ford or Chevy some have more bells and whistles, some cost a bit more and some have better/different warranties and service records ( My camera has been in the repair facility once since I have owned it, is it a bad camera? No). Some manufacturers offer training and so do other organizations. You can take your Razor, Fluke, Mikron, Hot Shot to the FLIR facility and get the same training as the ones who purchased the FLIR, You can also take your FLIR to Snell and get the same training there.

Chuck