Came Behind Experienced Inspector

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by relliott

I just bought a new truck so I am better than you guys-oh forgot to mention my new power screw driver , you guys all got a power screwdriver right ?
If not you are all going to be sued because you are not as good as me .

I got me one of them thar tape measury things the other day.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by relliott

John IR is a great devise, but to imply that just because everytime you by a new tool your better than us is just wrong.
Surly you can see this.
I just bought a new truck so I am better than you guys-oh forgot to mention my new power screw driver , you guys all got a power screwdriver right ?
If not you are all going to be sued because you are not as good as me .

An IR camera will help an inspector (all inspectors) find more defects,
I would consider that a good thing. Before I had an IR camera, I am
positive that there were issues I never found. I am willing to admit reality.
The challenge is to see this without taking it as an insult. There is no insult
in seeing the benefits of a certain tool, over not having that tool.

I am sure the inspector I came behind is a good inspector. That is why I
feel sorry for the guy. He does not even know what has happened.
Fortunate for him, I am not the prosecution collecting evidence against him.

[cyezza]

John,

I think we all know, but for you to say we have no idea how vulnerable we are is a little insulting. Isn't that why we have a pre-inspection agreement? What's next sewer inspections with a camera

[Roy D. Cooke, #5]

Did two IR inspections today and one home had no concerns .
Other home had many places looked just like that only I could find no moisture so I called it out as a cold spots.
Our Outside temp was -10 F so most of our moisture is white.
The IR to me is just one more tool .
I have got along for many years with out and feel a good Inspector can continue to do a good job with out one ..
Roy Cooke

[relliott]

John ..I am just trying to help you see why your post looked insulting to those of us not finding IR as a requirement to join NACHI.
Linus answer is TONKA, a good sturdy truck and low maintenance.
Heck ,Ralph Nader does not even have a drivers license and he runs for President.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by cyezza

John,

I think we all know, but for you to say we have no idea how vulnerable we are is a little insulting. Isn't that why we have a pre-inspection agreement? What's next sewer inspections with a camera

The IR camera helps the inspector discover things that are normally
covered within the SOP, but in a greater way.

To those who see the camera as a benefit because of it's ability to
find defects, there is no insult. To those who have an insecurity
about their self esteem, it makes them feel insecure and offended
to imagine that they are missing things during their inspections.
Relax and try to digest the information without emotions blocking
the reality of the facts.

[Larry D. Kage]

They look like these doors:

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by relliott

John ..I am just trying to help you see why your post looked insulting to those of us not finding IR as a requirement to join NACHI.
Linus answer is TONKA, a good sturdy truck and low maintenance.
Heck ,Ralph Nader does not even have a drivers license and he runs for President.

No one ever came close to saying an IR camera is a requirement to join NACHI.

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

The IR camera helps the inspector discover things that are normally
covered within the SOP, but in a greater way.

To those who see the camera as a benefit because of it's ability to
find defects, there is no insult. To those who have an insecurity
about their self esteem, it makes them feel insecure and offended
to imagine that they are missing things during their inspections.
Relax and try to digest the information without emotions blocking
the reality of the facts.

And for others it's not in their budget, it's not insecurity at all.

[aerb]

what with ford or chevy its got to be a Hummer!

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by Roy D. Cooke, #5

Did two IR inspections today and one home had no concerns .
Other home had many places looked just like that only I could find no moisture so I called it out as a cold spots.
Our Outside temp was -10 F so most of our moisture is white.
The IR to me is just one more tool .
I have got along for many years with out and feel a good Inspector can continue to do a good job with out one ..
Roy Cooke

I agree. A good inspector will do a good inspection, it is possible
that an IR camera will reveal some issues that even a good inspector
would never see.

Why spend thousands of dollars on a tool that does not improve an inspectors
ability to find defects.?

No offense intended. Please remain calm.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by bdoles2

And for others it's not in their budget, it's not insecurity at all.

If we avoid the discussion of an IR camera because some
cannot afford one, then that would seem a little extreme.
I feel most mature adults can manage to get past the emotions
of seeing others with a tool they do not own yet. I was in the
same boat for years. It never bothered me.

BTW... this is an IR forum.

[Roy D. Cooke, #5]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

I agree. A good inspector will do a good inspection, it is possible
that an IR camera will reveal some issues that even a good inspector
would never see.
Yes and I can do an inspection and see things most inspectors in my area would miss .
Because I have had better training and have more experience then most in this area....
Why spend thousands of dollars on a tool that does not improve an inspectors
ability to find defects.?
..Yep and if we all had blower doors we would also improve our inspections.
Yes and If I spend 6 hours inspecting I know I could do a better inspection then I do know.
.Some of the best Inspectors I know carry a ladder a flash light, screw driver, and Pliers.
Managed to do inspections for 30 years claims free.
Next we will be saying OH! you only have a cheap cammera you need this wiz Bange great IR Camera and only cost me $26'000;00 ,you better get one as you are missing too much with that simple cheap old Bcam..
No offense intended. Please remain calm.

IR is just one more tool to help me do a reasonable inspection .
My Guarantee is I am sure not going to find all the faults in this home .
Roy Cooke

[Bruce A. King]

I had a client that owned an IR camera.

His new 600k modular home had water run in before the roof was complete.
The rain soaked some fiberglass insulation.
The insulation later dried out and months passed as they finished the home.
The builder said he replaced the insulation but probably did not.

When I did the inspection, my client showed me the areas where water had entered using his IR camera. The display showed a significant (can't remember how much) temperature difference at the area that had been wet months before. This would make many IR inspectors think that a leak was present but it was not. All I can figure is that the insulation is damaged and allowing the area to show cooler. Any air infiltration at this large area would also show up next to the same area since it was all the same ceiling area and part of an interior wall. Be careful with jumping the gun and saying someones house is leaking water, you might get sued.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by Roy D. Cooke, #5

I am sure not going to find all the faults in this home .
Roy Cooke

Agree.