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Old 8/26/08, 9:11 AM
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Default Curosity kills the cat

But satisfaction definitely brings it back.

When I see something with the IR Camera that makes no sense I will not leave the home until I have an answer. I had an interior wall between two bedrooms that had identical hot spots on both sides of the wall that basically traveled from the top plate to the floor as viewed from within both bedrooms.

This dividing wall naturally joined the exterior wall on the east side the time of day was roughly 2 PM no sunshine on the exterior wall, bedroom windows on the east The gas Pak A/C unit was located just on the opposite side of the exterior wall on the ground level and was operating at the time. This was a slab foundation with the A/C ducts embedded within the slab.

The hot spots on the interior wall had to do with the A/C unit what do you suppose I found when I went into the attic??????
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Old 8/26/08, 9:17 AM
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Default Re: Curosity kills the cat

My guess is: poor framing in combination with no insulation, and attic heat was flowing down the wall?
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Old 8/26/08, 11:49 AM
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Default Re: Curosity kills the cat

He stated a gas pack A/C unit, no refrigerant lines exist except inside the one piece packaged unit outside.


I wonder where the return duct runs?
Must be sucking in hot air from the attic via the wall cavity somehow..



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Default Re: Curosity kills the cat

Hi Charlie,

were they using the cavity wall space as a supply plenum?

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Old 8/26/08, 5:00 PM
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Hi Charlie,

were they using the cavity wall space as a supply plenum?

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Hi Gerry if it was used as a supply plenum with the A/C in operation would not have been reading in the 90's Slab floor not a crawl

Here is a pic of the outside unit No refrigerant lines
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He stated a gas pack A/C unit, no refrigerant lines exist except inside the one piece packaged unit outside.


I wonder where the return duct runs?
Must be sucking in hot air from the attic via the wall cavity somehow..
Hi Bruce you got it right except for the sucking part. There was a chase with the metal return air duct within the chase but the chase was open at the top into the attic and no insulation on the bedroom interior walls the attic temp was just cooking these two walls.



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Great post Charlie,
But I am confused as to why the chase was open to the attic? I would expect it to be closed off in some way.



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Old 8/26/08, 9:09 PM
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Great post Charlie,
But I am confused as to why the chase was open to the attic? I would expect it to be closed off in some way.
This type of construction is not common here but have seen a few this way. They frame the chase in, install the plenum the rectangular plenum as in the pic just penetrates the brick veneer and then they install the round return duct vertical all of the way up to the attic level and 90 over to the ceiling plenum's where the return air grills are located.

The area into the attic where the 90 was located was where the heat from the attic was effecting the walls this area should have been sealed at the attic level. It will be after my report gets submitted. Difficult to just state in the report need to seal this area to prevent temp intrusion and actually get someone to do it. If one can show a pic of the area in IR with the temp glaring at them I find better results



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Old 8/26/08, 9:27 PM
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This type of construction is not common here but have seen a few this way. They frame the chase in, install the plenum the rectangular plenum as in the pic just penetrates the brick veneer and then they install the round return duct vertical all of the way up to the attic level and 90 over to the ceiling plenum's where the return air grills are located.

The area into the attic where the 90 was located was where the heat from the attic was effecting the walls this area should have been sealed at the attic level. It will be after my report gets submitted. Difficult to just state in the report need to seal this area to prevent temp intrusion and actually get someone to do it. If one can show a pic of the area in IR with the temp glaring at them I find better results
Thanks for the explanation Charley.



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