International Association of Certified Home Inspectors

David A. Andersen · #1 1/26/12, 10:49 PM

Those of you that use picture-in-a-picture, turn the damn thing off when it is not appropriate!

I received my third Thermal Report that I have to follow up on this week and it's like looking through a straw! Entire walls and roofs taken with picture-in-a-picture! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

Also, Reflected Temperature is not the same as the ambient air temp unless your not standing in the room!

Is this a Fluke thing? All three reports are with Fluke cameras!

Charley L. Bottger · #2 1/26/12, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dandersen

Those of you that use picture-in-a-picture, turn the damn thing off when it is not appropriate!

I received my third Thermal Report that I have to follow up on this week and it's like looking through a straw! Entire walls and roofs taken with picture-in-a-picture! Ahhhhhhhhhhh!

Also, Reflected Temperature is not the same as the ambient air temp unless your not standing in the room!

Is this a Fluke thing? All three reports are with Fluke cameras!

So what is the problem someone said ya had tunnel vision

David A. Andersen · #3 1/27/12, 8:02 AM

I'll be "expanding" their horizons before I'm done with these lame reports!

Linas Dapkus · #4 1/27/12, 8:10 AM

Why don't you encourage the use of PIP? You'll get more business.

Jeffrey R. Jonas · #5 1/27/12, 10:01 AM

Now David, you know that "bells and whistles" sells more than "knowledge and experience". Just ask any lowballer!

Jeffrey Moore · #6 1/28/12, 10:34 PM

That's interesting David. At my Level II class this week nobody used PIP when in field. We also did some short "show your stuff" images and none were PIP

Chuck Evans · #7 1/29/12, 1:21 AM

PIP has its place, but most times it's detrimental because it crops the IR image.

Charley L. Bottger · #8 1/29/12, 7:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cevans

PIP has its place, but most times it's detrimental because it crops the IR image.

In the flir software you can expand horizontal and vertical the IR and leave just enough of the digital to see what it is

Chuck Evans · #9 1/29/12, 9:08 AM

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Originally Posted by cbottger

In the flir software you can expand horizontal and vertical the IR and leave just enough of the digital to see what it is

I know. Side by side is still superior for most images though I do use interval sometimes to pinpoint a thermal pattern.

Charley L. Bottger · #10 1/29/12, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cevans

I know. Side by side is still superior for most images though I do use interval sometimes to pinpoint a thermal pattern.

Me also I don't use PIP very much prefer sideXside myself I did not know what kind of camera ya was using

David A. Andersen · #11 1/29/12, 10:51 AM

I'll stand corrected in that there is a place for PIP; wet spot in the ceiling of a room, one hot breaker in a panel, close up's after a "reference scan" was taken etc...

But when your scanning large areas like a roof or a wall indoors close up, why do you need a reference in the first place?

As Charley pointed out, you "can" adjust the thing but we are asking someone to adjust when they don't even "tune" the image!

Heck most of the time I'm stitching scans together, not making them smaller!

Charley, I was going to submit this at New Orleans.
Would I have had a chance? I couldn't see the winner you guys posted.
There is a lot of stuff going on in this scan if you look around...

Chuck Evans · #12 1/29/12, 2:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dandersen

Charley, I was going to submit this at New Orleans.
Would I have had a chance? I couldn't see the winner you guys posted.
There is a lot of stuff going on in this scan if you look around...

That's a great summertime image David! What are the pixel dimensions of the stitched image? How many source images? FLIR Panorama tool? Handheld or tripod?

It would have been a contender, but I'm not sure it would have won. The winner in the category was a massive 3D modeled IR image of a datacenter server rack aisle (I'm sure you can guess who submitted it). I don't even know how many images and perspectives went into producing it.

David A. Andersen · #13 1/29/12, 2:42 PM

(2) 320 x 640 scans, hand held, Flir Image Builder Software.

Not the best stitch, but I find it interesting.

If you read into it, the air above the door is not related to the leaking return duct. The supply air duct leaks had a greater net over the return and significantly depressurized the building.

This is not a Blower Door Test. It is normal HVAC operation for this house.

Yes, I can guess!
This is a "working scan". I don't have time for that other stuff!

My Military Body Armor GIF scans would have won hands down if we could do video, and if the job wasn't classified...