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Old 11/28/09, 8:58 AM
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Default What do you see

...and why?




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Old 11/28/09, 9:12 AM
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Default Re: What do you see

A past window opening ? or they have something hanging on the inside of the room? The out line is inside the 2X framing of the wall. is this a north side wall at about 12:00 noon?

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Old 11/28/09, 11:23 AM
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Reflection?

Do you have a non thermal of same area?

More info please.



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Old 11/28/09, 1:05 PM
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Default Re: What do you see

I see maybe a plugged gutter, A window filled in and possible extra heat going on by the meter base,and A lack of or missing insulation . Hard to say with out information.
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Old 11/28/09, 2:35 PM
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Default Re: What do you see

Posting an infrared image and wanting people to "guess" at what it could be is a waste of time! If your going to post an example for the purpose of educating inspectors, then you will need to include the data necessary to make an educated and informed opinion. That would include the digital image and several other inspection and weather related details.

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Old 11/28/09, 2:53 PM
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Default Re: What do you see

Where's the temperature scale?

It looks like uninsulated walls and heat build-up on the underside of the eaves.

Is that dark area a shadow?
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Old 11/28/09, 4:17 PM
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Default Re: What do you see

House next door casting a shadow on wall and cooler square is cold
energy coming through from low/missing insulated area in wall.

Did I win a prize?



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Old 11/28/09, 4:41 PM
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Okay, not enough information!

That's the point. If you think this is a waste of time, then go do something more productive. This is just to kill time. It's better than talking about politics and the crappy real estate market.

When you use a thermal camera, as you first see something you have little or no information to go on.
That's the point. You guys have started asking questions and began to formulate a hypothesis for further investigation to begin.

I was looking through some scans and I came across this and adjusted look right to me.
So I thought I'd throw it out just for some discussion.

This photograph was taken in the summer.
Midafternoon.
I was called in to identify and locate a roof leak that was causing problems all the way down to the basement.

Ron, south facing wall, after noon (about 1:30 PM). Something hanging on the inside of the room is interesting. You obviously see the warmer corners of the house. Why are the corners warmer? This has caught my eye many times and made me stop for a moment. Remember, it's summertime and the air conditioner is on. Is the big blue square better or less insulated?

Jeffrey, no reflection, I'll try to find you the digital.

Wayne, yes, use the a dirty gutter. Good eye on the meter base! Actually it is a transformer in a low-voltage control panel next to the meter can.

Kevin, I don't think this is a waste of time, we are working on the thought process of what you do when you see this in the camera. Need more information and I will provide it just as you would go find it on-site.

David, the temperature scale is turned off on the camera while scanning. I would say that the walls are not as well insulated in some places as others. You're hitting on something with that heat build up on the underside of the eve. Why would heat build up? Normally this is a shaded area and it's cooler. This is what made me take a second look at the scan too. The dark area is not a shadow, it is in direct sunlight (note the high temperature of the foundation). What else might make this pattern?



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Old 11/28/09, 4:42 PM
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No prize yet John.
I found the digital pic (attached above).

Hint, look at the stair stringers. Has to do with the blue triangle shapes.

Wayne, I think the gutter was detached from the fascia if I rember correctly.



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Siding installed over brick veneer.
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Old 11/28/09, 4:53 PM
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No, we can see the studs behind the vinyl, but it is installed over something (getting warmer) literally! ;-



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Old 11/28/09, 5:11 PM
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Is the dark area wet so it is not insulating like it should?



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Old 11/28/09, 6:13 PM
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Default Re: What do you see

Youse guys are out in left field.

I see a LARGE box in the house up against the wall that is my Christmas present from Santa, and on the side wall a stain resembling that left by my Rotteweiler if I don't come home early and he pee's on the wall.
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Old 11/28/09, 6:19 PM
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Quote:
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Youse guys are out in left field.

I see a LARGE box in the house up against the wall that is my Christmas present from Santa, and on the side wall a stain resembling that left by my Rotteweiler if I don't come home early and he pee's on the wall.
I feel better about my answer now, now that I read yours...



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Old 11/28/09, 6:51 PM
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Yes Larry it is.
There was a brief rain prior to my arrival.

Dan, Santa will bring you a lump of coal for peaking!!!



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