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Old 8/20/08, 6:22 PM
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Old 8/20/08, 8:29 PM
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The video was well produced and thought out....but I have to say that if this is what an IR camera means to a home inspection....they are a terrible waste of money.

In the basement, you had visible evidence of moisture intrusion without the use of the IR camera. The energy audit revealed with the IR camera downstairs what a trip to the attic would have eventually revealed....uneven installation.

These things are definitely over rated.



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Old 8/20/08, 9:17 PM
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they are a terrible waste of money.
Who's money? InterNACHI members aren't paying for thier IR cameras.... their client's are paying for them.

In business, for something to be a "waste of money" it would have to have a 0% ROI (return on investment).

Now granted, IR cameras can't compete with CMI where we have reports of CMI delivering 100 times its cost. And at only a 1-time fee of $375, it won't be long before we get to the point where it returns 500 times cost for some CMIs. That's a 50,000% ROI! But let's say the amortized cost of a camera is $150 a month... surely inspectors are either charging extra, increasing the number of inspections from its marketing value, or providing additional services with the camera that more than offset $150 a month. No?



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Old 8/20/08, 9:18 PM
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These things are definitely over rated.
Disagree,.. like Ben said, you can scan a large area at once, Yeah sure there are some "wet" spot you can see visually but there are even more you cant. Thats what makes the tool invaluable. I find anomalies with my BCAM SD all the time. I make sure the clients that do call me know I have the professional "Tools" for a more thorough job.



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Old 8/20/08, 9:19 PM
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Good Video Ben!



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Old 8/21/08, 12:58 AM
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Disagree,.. like Ben said, you can scan a large area at once, Yeah sure there are some "wet" spot you can see visually but there are even more you cant. Thats what makes the tool invaluable. I find anomalies with my BCAM SD all the time. I make sure the clients that do call me know I have the professional "Tools" for a more thorough job.
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Old 8/23/08, 8:51 PM
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without the IR the major wetspot never would have been found.
That alone speaks for itself



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Old 8/23/08, 9:32 PM
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without the IR the major wetspot never would have been found.
That alone speaks for itself

Actually, he did correct himself and say that the ceiling had a different appearance at that point than the rest of the ceiling. A hand to feel the coolness and a moisture meter to verify the moisture and...bingo...that's all you need.



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These things are definitely over rated.
It must suck running a business from inside a closet. Think outside the box once in awhile.
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Old 8/25/08, 9:18 AM
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Make your case Brian and try to refrain from the personal attacks.



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Make your case Brian and try to refrain from the personal attacks.
Everyone could benefit from this advice, no?



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Everyone could benefit from this advice, no?
I agree.



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Make your case Brian and try to refrain from the personal attacks.
Yes daddy!

BTW, it really wasn't personal, there are many that need to think outside the box. IMO
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Old 8/25/08, 11:36 AM
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Yes daddy!

BTW, it really wasn't personal, there are many that need to think outside the box. IMO
Is that your case Brian?



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Case, what case?

I really have nothing to prove to anyone, the tool or "toy" as some call it pays my bills, makes my customers happy and keeps them coming back. What case do I need to be concerned with and explain to you guys?

This tool has helped improved my bottom line, increased my customer base, increased satisfaction of that customer base and increased the knowledge of many new homeowners in the metro Atlanta area.

Yeah, this tool is over rated . Maybe I'll just get rid of it and sell it on eBay and have to worry about a down housing market and worry about how to pay my own mortgage. Don't think so...

My wife has about 5 more weeks to work her 8-5 job behind a desk (downsizing, go figure), then she's coming on board to handle my marketing and sales. Now the only marketing I do is my website - word of mouth and referrals. I can't wait to be even busier when my marketing plan kicks in and she's taking the reigns of the entire marketing and management side. My point here is that before the IR camera I would have been squirming thinking she was losing her job, with the IR camera, I now encourage it.

I'm 35 years old, I don't have a pension kicking in. My financial success is dependent on me and me only. If I want to continue to live in my own house, have nice cars and take vacations here and there, I have to work hard. This "tool" is enabling me to achieve success that I did not have before.

Isn't there some convention in Colorado you need to be arguing about?

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