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Old 6/19/11, 10:52 PM
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No. You don't need an IR camera to determine the cause, but it does help to determine that there is a problem, and to present a clear, visual (in IR spectrum) picture of the problem.

I have found, during numerous court cases, that udges are simple, highly overworked people who can a simple, easy-to-understand picture story book to base their judgements on.

That is what I provide.

Easy-to-understand story books, with pictures and written explainations, as well as numbers, quatitative numbers from calibrated equipment, that no one in the courtroom can dispute or agrue with.

It works. Go figure

Thank-you for your honesty and truthful examples.



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Old 6/20/11, 8:25 AM
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You dont need a camera to determine the cause or that this is a condition requiring repair.
One other thing.

With condensation, it is very difficult to convince people that that leaking ceiling is condensation and not a leaky roof. People see leaking ceilings and the first thing they think is the roof. They cannot conceive of that much water being condensed. The camera picture can help to prove it to them.

There are many times when the camera showed me stuff that I would not be able to see without it, and to be able to prove my findings to the client.

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Old 6/20/11, 2:35 PM
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Will, quit wasting your time on the likes of someone that can't seem to get beyond their limited scope of experience, education and ability to "think for themselves".

If I spent the time to post all of the things I found with thermal imaging that would otherwise be imposable to detect, I'd be broke and here on this message board with the likes of those that have nothing better to do with their time than post how they can find stuff without these tools...

They are just a legend in their own minds.

I just left a Hi-rise condo inspection that the Tennant refused us entry. I already know there is a plumbing leak in the kitchen and I haven't stepped foot in the place!

It's one thing to not choose to use the tools available to you (that are not a home inspection requirement) and another to publicly tear down those who do because they know they are just behind the times and can't seem to deal with it.

They should just shut-up and quit making themselves world renowned fools on one of the most visible web sites on the internet.



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Old 6/20/11, 2:44 PM
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Will, quit wasting your time on the likes of someone that can't seem to get beyond their limited scope of experience, education and ability to "think for themselves".

If I spent the time to post all of the things I found with thermal imaging that would otherwise be imposable to detect, I'd be broke and here on this message board with the likes of those that have nothing better to do with their time than post how they can find stuff without these tools...

They are just a legend in their own minds.

I just left a Hi-rise condo inspection that the Tennant refused us entry. I already know there is a plumbing leak in the kitchen and I haven't stepped foot in the place!

It's one thing to not choose to use the tools available to you (that are not a home inspection requirement) and another to publicly tear down those who do because they know they are just behind the times and can't seem to deal with it.

They should just shut-up and quit making themselves world renowned fools on one of the most visible web sites on the internet.
Now, now, David. Quit holding back, it will only stress you out. Tell us what you really think.



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Old 6/20/11, 10:24 PM
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I had a 4 unit condo buyer inspection today. The buyer said he was glad to pay extra to get IR done with the inspection. The building was 2 years old and when I arrived the first thing I noticed was the faux brick siding. Buckled corners from what I think was caused by ice pushing the siding away from the building. Many windows leaked as I figured they would. This one had block structural walls so I also figured ceiling leaks would be present. They were.
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Old 6/20/11, 10:33 PM
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Nice work Linas.I have never seen that type of construction up here in Montreal Quebec.



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Nice work Linas.I have never seen that type of construction up here in Montreal Quebec.
No Stonetile being used there.
http://www.stonetile.com/

Quite a bit in our area. Looks great if done well! Was on a $2 millon house I wrote 2 litigation reports on.....the Stonetile was not a problem.
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Old 6/20/11, 11:08 PM
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Nice find, but Hagarty would have found that one...

He couldn't document it though!



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Old 6/21/11, 4:06 AM
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Where Brian .Nova Scotia?
Block wall or CMU construction for residential application is a rarity I believe in Quebec. I have seen extensions and only a hand full of homes. Commercial application yes. But I have not even seen the product in Quebec. Not to say it not here.
Now you mention 2 million dollar homes. Could you inforn the MB when the use of this product started? Maybe some would like to make note ( as I ) and do you have any Photo of one of the residential building going up? Love to see it visually.
I would like a date if possible of when this trend started if you do not mind.
It would be nice to have in-case some defective is found in the build or material standard..
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I see the head office in Cow town. Now I understand. Not many masons there.
Chimerical when I started in the trade 1982. Mostly cladding on homes.
You in Cow Town Brian?
Maybe the University gives you the creeps.



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Old 6/21/11, 4:37 AM
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Linas could you have had suspicion without the IR.
I see lifted screws on the cladding and the material if out of place..
It's a weather infiltration entry factor right off the bat. No VDB or VDR and opps.
The exterior envelopes cladding that is missing, moved, cracked, damaged in any way is a deficiency and suspect defect and noted for further investigation right?
It sometimes allows you a glimpse into the system.



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Where Brian .Nova Scotia?
Block wall or CMU construction for residential application is a rarity I believe in Quebec. I have seen extensions and only a hand full of homes. Commercial application yes. But I have not even seen the product in Quebec. Not to say it not here.
Now you mention 2 million dollar homes. Could you inforn the MB when the use of this product started? Maybe some would like to make note ( as I ) and do you have any Photo of one of the residential building going up? Love to see it visually.
I would like a date if possible of when this trend started if you do not mind.
It would be nice to have in-case some defective is found in the build or material standard..
Thank you.
ROBERT YOUNG

See the installation instructions on the website!!

I see the head office in Cow town. Now I understand. Not many masons there.
Chimerical when I started in the trade 1982. Mostly cladding on homes.
You in Cow Town Brian?
Maybe the University gives you the creeps.
Now....where do I live today??
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Old 6/21/11, 12:21 PM
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I had a 4 unit condo buyer inspection today. The buyer said he was glad to pay extra to get IR done with the inspection. The building was 2 years old and when I arrived the first thing I noticed was the faux brick siding. Buckled corners from what I think was caused by ice pushing the siding away from the building. Many windows leaked as I figured they would. This one had block structural walls so I also figured ceiling leaks would be present. They were.
Why were you inspecting the exterior? I thought we were supposed to charge less for condos and disclaim ALL common components...




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