Infrared Inspection Service

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Joe Farsetta writes:

I've explained InterNACHI's position a dozen times.

I've posted FLIR's written position here 3 times.

What more do you want?

Perhaps Joe could explain his position on how ANYONE
has violated the patent. He never has stated that.

[Joel T. Warner]

Originally Posted by jminchey

am retiring next week and have been using thermal imaging for quite some time, in my inspections, never charged extra for using it, but, you probably can..what it did fo me is add to the arsenal of credibility, and increased my business referrals trmendously, so much, that I had to stop advertising and limit myself to a small group of successful realtors that I could develop a trusting relationship with and also thru client referrals...what also helped was I could perform speciality inspections such as non-invasive EIFS inspections, log cabins, finding hidden leaks and electrical shorts, as well as determining if insulation was in walls or not...also, prior to our tough economy, small factories would hire my services to perform equipment mainternance evaluations such as finding faulty breakers, bearings, etc, that could be replaced during off hours to prevent production stoppage..I did complete an IR training course as a cetified thermographer just for credilbility...my camera was not a fancy one (bought it refurbsihed for $10000) but it was more than ample for increasing income...if you are interested in it, feel free to contact me, going ot put it and a Tramex wet wall detector (the large expensive one)on e-bay for $7000 starting bid...thanks Jack Minchey, Mid State Home Inspections

This is what the thread is about. You answered several questions with your post. I appreciate the offer but I am not quite ready to pull the trigger on the camera yet.

I hope others will read your post and make you an offer.

Congratulations on your retirement and best wishes.

[Billy Boerner]

Infrared is a no brainer. Who would you hire? The guy who can see moisture and heat or the guy who thinks there might be issues? Really common sense tells me to add one, however, I'm watching all the hype about this patent issue first before I drop my change on the ground. Nick, Joe and whoever else please keep us informed.

[John McKenna]

From what I have heard... and it made sense... is the following.

You turned on the AC to create a delta T and violated the patent.
NO... my SoP requires that I turn on the AC.

You turned on the light switches to see the load on the system and violated
the patent. No... my SoP requires that I turn on the switches.

bla, bla, bla,

I just happen to use an IR camera while doing a home inspection...
I never read the patent or follow it, in any form or fashion.

Please advise me how I can violate the patent? Proof?

[Bill C. Merrell, CMI]

Found this on the web-
http://www.homesafeinspection.com/ho...-methodologies

[Billy Boerner]

Pretty much sums it up. Looks like Home Safe has cornered the IR market. Like to hear how other's feel they can get around this.

[Ron Bibler]

Any one putting up odds when HomeSafe will start the first suit ?

$ 50.00 says 10 Years...

Best

Ron

[Billy Boerner]

Originally Posted by rbibler

Any one putting up odds when HomeSafe will start the first suit ?

$ 50.00 says 10 Years...

Best

Ron

I'll double your bet and say probably about two years from now or less.

[Wayne B. Wilson]

I do not know how it could seeing this has been out for years. I used a camera 20 years ago the one that weighed about 15 lbs it was large took 2 men and boy to carry it.

[David Sorge]

Originally Posted by rbibler

Any one putting up odds when HomeSafe will start the first suit ?

The folks at HomeSafe won't sue anyone successfully for any meaningful amount of money.

-They didn't invent Delta-T
-They didn't invent the difference between between interior and exterior temperatures, the ability to measure it, or the ability to manipulate it
-They didn't invent any technology related to IR other than a protocol for using it.
-each element of their protocol was likely invented by someone else

Given these facts, a suit needs to meet one very specific requirement in order to grow legs...the plaintiff needs to be able to show the court that some person or entity caused them to suffer a loss.

In that light, it's unlikely that HomeSafe could build even a weak case unless the defendant was a direct competitor in their market. Anyone with even half a brain could make the HS folks look like idiots in front of a Judge.

If they can't prove a loss...it doesn't matter what else they can prove.

[Mathew Hawley]

The whole patent thing is a joke. Don't let it discourage you from starting an IR program. You have nothing to worry about.