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Old 11/15/12, 12:44 PM
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The goal of this course is to teach home inspectors about infrared thermography and its applications for inspecting residential properties.

http://www.nachi.org/infrared-thermo...deo-course.htm



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Old 11/15/12, 10:27 PM
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Ben, I am not trying to give you a hard time, but you might want to consider having someone go over this before putting your name and the Nachi seal behind it.

I got 14 pages in and had to stop.

I think you have a great concept and potential service to the members. However, it needs professional help.

Just my 2 cents.....will see what the other guys add to the conversation.

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Old 11/16/12, 1:28 PM
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I agree Jason except that I reviewed all of it.

The misinformation and downright inaccuracies are astounding.

Great concept like Jason said, but this needs a lot of work and substantially more input from truly knowledgeable sources.
I'm sorry Ben, I like a lot of your work, but I wouldn't even call this an introductory remedial course... but more so a dangerous, inaccurate, and misguided document for the otherwise unaware.

As a side note, I hope the same grainy and imperceptible images aren't used on the $500 version of this...

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Old 11/21/12, 9:55 AM
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As a newbie to thermography, watching this right now, what heinous errors and omissions are most notable?
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Old 11/21/12, 10:06 AM
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I agree Jason except that I reviewed all of it.

The misinformation and downright inaccuracies are astounding.

Great concept like Jason said, but this needs a lot of work and substantially more input from truly knowledgeable sources.
I'm sorry Ben, I like a lot of your work, but I wouldn't even call this an introductory remedial course... but more so a dangerous, inaccurate, and misguided document for the otherwise unaware.

As a side note, I hope the same grainy and imperceptible images aren't used on the $500 version of this...
I have not had the time to review it but I will



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Old 11/21/12, 1:53 PM
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My father taught me if one can not speak postive say nothing.

I watched about 1/2 of the video and I am speechless

Ben take Bill and Jason's advice please



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Old 11/26/12, 4:54 PM
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My father taught me if one can not speak postive say nothing.

I watched about 1/2 of the video and I am speechless

Ben take Bill and Jason's advice please
Not a problem.

Send me at ben@internachi.org any errors that you may find in any course, and we'll make the necessary changes.

Be as specific as possible.

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Old 11/26/12, 9:44 PM
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It may be more expedient to go the Gene Kranz route and ask "What do we got on the spacecraft that's good?"

I only got through a few minutes of skipping through it.



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Old 11/26/12, 10:18 PM
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Lemme guess.... They had that Infrared Certified guy give all of the input and didn't consult with any of the real thermographers that have been commenting??? What a waste of talent....



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Old 11/27/12, 2:08 PM
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Lemme guess.... They had that Infrared Certified guy give all of the input and didn't consult with any of the real thermographers that have been commenting??? What a waste of talent....
Again, send me at ben@internachi.org any errors that you may find in any course, and we'll make the necessary changes.

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Old 11/27/12, 10:02 PM
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We can start with discussing and covering the fundamental physics of thermal energy... better known as thermodynamics...

perhaps I missed that in the handout and video though, or perhaps this fundamental knowledge just is not important for interpreting and understanding home inspection related thermal images.
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Old 11/27/12, 10:03 PM
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Then we can discuss this general statement from the handout pg 6:

"Cavities, angles, holes, resemble darker areas
in thermal images."

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Old 11/27/12, 10:05 PM
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Then I would seriously like to know just what the hell the instructor is trying to say here (again from the handout pg 6):

"Viewing from different ANGELS can affect effective emissivity."
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Old 11/27/12, 10:10 PM
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Pg 7:

"Wavelength of the camera can affect the
the emissivity reading of an image."

Huh????
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Old 11/27/12, 10:26 PM
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Also from pg8:

Also consider a painted surface vs. a non painted
surface will affect the same material and
cause different emissivity.

The last 3 words in that sentence has me confused. Someone please explain... perhaps we need to go back to the beginning at page 5 to find the definition of emissivity... oh... that's right... it wasn't really defined. Hopefully that will be in the $500 version though.
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