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Old 8/19/08, 11:53 PM
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Erol;

How many times have you seen new constuction, with Kraft paper vapor barrier all fine, but with 8 can lights in the ceiling and large spaces around them and holes in the cans that let humidity leak into the attic? I have seen many instances where the rafters or roof decking, right above these lights, is wet (sometimes, liquid water) and mold forming.

Brian;

What is your experience with Icynene? I understand it is a Canadian product and has some benefits over polyeurethane. It's been up there longer, but we have a local dealer and I want your skinny. Their engineer spoke at a Chapter meeting and seemed to have his head on straight (rather than just being a company shill). Your experience?



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Old 8/20/08, 12:57 AM
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Seems everbody already knows it all.
errrr.... yes, some more than others.



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Old 8/20/08, 1:37 AM
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He's on the outside looking in. Sad. What more can I say??
Back Again, Linas! Seems to me a few months ago, I answered your request for some credentials to back up my claims about some thing or other. When requesting a reciprocal post......I still have zero, nada, nothing.

BTW, I viewed your webpage on your IR services......you really gonna find all the mould, bugs, electrical faults in a house with IR.......No, you don't say it but the tone of the page implies it.......hence my call on the use of such ads...over-embellishment!!!!

"Need an Energy Audit or Mold Inspection? We use Infrared Technology to help us "see the whole picture"."

Energy audit......This has recently been discussed here.....IR by itself is far from an energy audit but will provide some qualitative info that enhances and helps in an audit.

How much mold you gonna find with IR??

"Finally, thermal imaging technology allows us to more-accurately identify damage to your home's electrical systems. By being able to pinpoint "hot spots" in fuse boxes and household wiring, we can provide you and your electrician with detailed imagery that will help the electrician to identify defects and make repairs more quickly to save you money."

A thread I began- and it went for 117 posts and over 2300 views- never ended up with a standard procedure of how to load a house and its circuits so as to pick up all faults. Don't lead them to believe you are "God" with the IR!!
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Old 8/20/08, 1:42 AM
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Erol;

How many times have you seen new constuction, with Kraft paper vapor barrier all fine, but with 8 can lights in the ceiling and large spaces around them and holes in the cans that let humidity leak into the attic? I have seen many instances where the rafters or roof decking, right above these lights, is wet (sometimes, liquid water) and mold forming.

Brian;

What is your experience with Icynene? I understand it is a Canadian product and has some benefits over polyeurethane. It's been up there longer, but we have a local dealer and I want your skinny. Their engineer spoke at a Chapter meeting and seemed to have his head on straight (rather than just being a company shill). Your experience?
Will:

Just got a low monthly fixed rate for all US/Canada long distance. Will call in the next couple of days about the foam. It's 1: 43 AM here!!!
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Old 8/20/08, 1:43 AM
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a standard procedure of how to load a house and its circuits so as to pick up all faults.
Uh, why do think it is the job of a home inspector using an infrared camera to find ALL faults. The purpose of any inspection tool is to find more, not all. Ever heard of "not technically exhaustive?"

You're not seriously arguing that the IR camera fails to find more than the naked eye... on the grounds that it doesn't find everything, are you?



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Old 8/20/08, 9:09 AM
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Hey!!! The tag team grows!!!

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Brian writes:

Uh, why do think it is the job of a home inspector using an infrared camera to find ALL faults.
I don't but some ads insinuate that in certain categories of the inspection process!!

The purpose of any inspection tool is to find more, not all. Ever heard of "not technically exhaustive?"
Been in the business either part or fulltime for 24+ years, what do you think?

You're not seriously arguing that the IR camera fails to find more than the naked eye... (not even trying) on the grounds that it doesn't find everything, are you?
Have you read a couple of the IR web ads from members I brought to the attention of the board (one has been changed drastically since; the other... we'll see) or the thread (2300+ views) where Joe F chimes in with a similar tone about "misleading customer expectations" about what the IR process can deliver!!


Nick......don't know why but for the last couple of months I've been get PM's and even phone calls from members looking for advice.......must be adding something of value to the board!! Today I will be calling California again and then calling W. Decker.
Hell, Mario has invited full scale reputation attacks yet I continue to get greens!!
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Old 8/20/08, 9:26 AM
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Back Again, Linas! Seems to me a few months ago, I answered your request for some credentials to back up my claims about some thing or other. When requesting a reciprocal post......I still have zero, nada, nothing.

BTW, I viewed your webpage on your IR services......you really gonna find all the mould, bugs, electrical faults in a house with IR.......No, you don't say it but the tone of the page implies it.......hence my call on the use of such ads...over-embellishment!!!!

"Need an Energy Audit or Mold Inspection? We use Infrared Technology to help us "see the whole picture"."

Energy audit......This has recently been discussed here.....IR by itself is far from an energy audit but will provide some qualitative info that enhances and helps in an audit.

How much mold you gonna find with IR??

"Finally, thermal imaging technology allows us to more-accurately identify damage to your home's electrical systems. By being able to pinpoint "hot spots" in fuse boxes and household wiring, we can provide you and your electrician with detailed imagery that will help the electrician to identify defects and make repairs more quickly to save you money."

A thread I began- and it went for 117 posts and over 2300 views- never ended up with a standard procedure of how to load a house and its circuits so as to pick up all faults. Don't lead them to believe you are "God" with the IR!!
All of my IR work comes from my website. So I must be doing something right. It would be foolish for me to claim I can find all defeciencies. I really don't need you're advise. Get a life Brian. You are truly a loser attacking people to get attention.

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Old 8/20/08, 3:41 PM
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Will:

Just got a low monthly fixed rate for all US/Canada long distance. Will call in the next couple of days about the foam. It's 1: 43 AM here!!!
Brian;

Call office phone (below) or send me an e-mail with you phone (e-mail also below). 1:41 PM, local, on 8/20/08, now.

Thanks;



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