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Old 1/20/08, 9:38 PM
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So you just gotta know how to push the button properly?
exactly too simple it only cost me $1,850.00 and 3 days in hotel at $90.00 and 4 days away from home and inspections. Plus Camera. Yep too simple $10,000;00 and I will be doing the NACHI course this week end another 16 hours.
All this to try and now how to read what I have seen before I push the button.
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Old 1/20/08, 10:09 PM
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It doesn't take vast amounts of knowledge to find a wet spot with an IR
camera and document it with a moisture meter. I do it all the time and I
am amazed at how easy it is once you understand a few basics of the IR
camera.

Save your money and lean what works, without all the fluff. The BCAM
is already set up with the factory default to find wet spots in a normal
home inspection.

Education is good, but so is saving money and feeding your family. If you
verify all your wet spots with a moisture meter, then you don't have to
live in the phobia of making all the huge errors that you hear about.

If you don't use a moisture meter, then you setting yourself up for a
mistake. Common sense tells you that.

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“Emissivity and Tref are ONLY necessary if you are measuring
temperatures (spot, average etc.) and want a good NUMBER. Since
you NEVER look at the specific temperature of the cold water spot
when you are just looking for wet areas you will not need to adjust the
E or Tref. That said, its usually a good to set the E value high (80 plus)
and the Tref at a typical room temperature setting, not high, not low.”

Scott Wood
Principle Instructor/Consultant
Building Science Institute
Director Building Sciences
National Association of Certified Thermographers
I have had this debate dozens of times and always win.
Why is this hard to see.?

After you learn the basics, then your best teacher is going to
be... spending about 30 inspections with an IR camera and a
quality moisture meter looking at houses. After a while it will
be like riding a bicycle. You will learn what enviornments work
and what you can to do make it work better.

If you don't spend the hours in the field, then you will never
feel comfortable with the images you see on your IR camera.
There are no short cuts. You have to spend time inspectiong
with the camera, even if you do it for free, while your learning.

Your not going to take a class and then walk out with what
experience can only show you. There are no buttons that
will make the camera tell you what you are seeing. You have
to spend time working with the camera till you get the feel
of what you are looking at.

Take a good IR class and go to work. This means your
going to be putting your moisture meter on hundreds of
anomalies that are not moisture, but look like they may be
moisture... until you start to understand what your camera
is showing you. It is a lot of work, but this is how you learn.

I used do this for hours at a time in empty houses when
I was out doing inspections. After a while you get better
and better at finding those invisible wet spots. No one
can do it for you.



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American Home Inspection - East Texas.


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Old 1/21/08, 7:29 AM
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John,

My "WET SPOT" comment was a joke.

You've gotta have a sense of humor once in a while.
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Old 1/21/08, 7:34 AM
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Great post Dave and congratulations on your certification!
Thanks, Bill.
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Old 1/21/08, 9:19 AM
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John,

My "WET SPOT" comment was a joke.

You've gotta have a sense of humor once in a while.
I know... I was not responding to that.
BTW... your camera really produces some very nice images
that I saw on your web site.



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Old 1/21/08, 10:25 AM
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I know... I was not responding to that.
BTW... your camera really produces some very nice images
that I saw on your web site.
Yea, I like the B-2 myself.

The ThermaCam B-2 has 32% more resolution (160 X 120 - 19,200 pixels) than the B-cams (120 X 120 - 14,400 pixels). This increases the crispness in both the display and the printed or copied images.

I also purchased my camera with the wide angle lens which gives me an additional 32 degrees viewing power verses the 25 degrees in the B-Cam. Working indoors is often constricted, so I need better viewing.
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Old 1/21/08, 11:06 AM
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Well,

I submitted my sample Infrared report to ITC last week in order to complete my Level 1 certification process. I just received the following email...

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Congratulations, this report has passed the level I report requirements.

Laurie will process your certification in a few weeks.

The certification will be mailed to either the address provided in your email or in the student information form from the attended class.


Jay Bowen
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Cell 920-819-7011
Office 920-497-7486


Now this process didn't hurt a bit.....
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Old 1/21/08, 11:16 AM
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Well,

I submitted my sample Infrared report to ITC last week in order to complete my Level 1 certification process. I just received the following email...




Now this process didn't hurt a bit.....
They say this about colonoscopys as well



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Old 1/21/08, 11:26 AM
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They say this about colonoscopys as well
Ohhhhh, thank God I don't know what that feels like.
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Old 1/21/08, 11:45 AM
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Ohhhhh, thank God I don't know what that feels like.
Don't worry, Dave. You will

I simply LOOOOVE Vercet!



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Old 1/21/08, 12:32 PM
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Oh my... something to look forward to ... LOL.



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Old 1/21/08, 12:34 PM
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Read and heed...

My brother-in-law was just diagnosed this week with cancer just about everywhere in his body. It started in his prostate...

He found out when he went in because his gallbladder was "acting up". Hes has a couple more years to reach the 5 0.
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Old 1/21/08, 1:03 PM
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Read and heed...

My brother-in-law was just diagnosed this week with cancer just about everywhere in his body. It started in his prostate...

He found out when he went in because his gallbladder was "acting up". Hes has a couple more years to reach the 5 0.
So sorry for him and his Family,
This just shows how Important it is to be test regularly

Thanks for the reminder to bad it has to be so serious
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Old 1/21/08, 4:00 PM
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Read and heed...

My brother-in-law was just diagnosed this week with cancer just about everywhere in his body. It started in his prostate...

He found out when he went in because his gallbladder was "acting up". Hes has a couple more years to reach the 5 0.
David A.,

I'm really sorry to hear of your brother-in-laws diagnosis. May the higher power watch over this gentleman. He will be in my prayers.

OK.....I hate to bring this thread off topic now.
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