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Old 5/22/10, 4:34 PM
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We have a new brochure for the IRI-4010 160X120 thermal camera

http://www.pembrokeinstruments.com/_...sheet-2008.pdf

The IRI-4010 is on sale for $3299 and we stock these cameras to support fast delivery.

The value of the IRI-4010 is high performance at very affordable pricing.
Financing is also available.
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Old 5/23/10, 2:01 PM
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Leslie,

Are all the images in the brochure from the advertised camera ?



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Old 5/24/10, 4:12 PM
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Old 5/25/10, 6:56 PM
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id be hesitant to say they were 160x120, they are alot clearer more like the 400x360 range. the only way would be to have the original radiometrics sent to verify.
I have a B cam and i never had that clear an image, and now i have a t400 and its night and day the end result.



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Old 5/26/10, 1:24 AM
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id be hesitant to say they were 160x120, they are alot clearer more like the 400x360 range. the only way would be to have the original radiometrics sent to verify.
I have a B cam and i never had that clear an image, and now i have a t400 and its night and day the end result.
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Old 5/26/10, 2:15 AM
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id be hesitant to say they were 160x120, they are alot clearer more like the 400x360 range. the only way would be to have the original radiometrics sent to verify.
I have a B cam and i never had that clear an image, and now i have a t400 and its night and day the end result.
There is absolutely no doubt the images were taken with the IRI-4010, 160X120. As far as I know, IRISYS does not have a handheld camera > 160X120.

We have many images of students taking many images with the IRI-4010 at a recent Level I class of similar quality. We have posted many of these images on our website and YouTube channel.

The 4010 is a very good engineering implementation. Yesterday we had a new customer that previously used a Fluke (I don't know which model) and he said the image quality of the 4010 was much better.

By the way, the thermal accuracy and sensitivity of handheld thermal cameras from 160X120 to 320X240 or even 640X480 does not change that much, basically from .10C to .05C. Image quality is better but your work is based more on thermal measurements. For general inspection work, a 160X120 will get the job done.

I have seen the IRI-4010 vs. Testo 160X120 side by side many times and the image quality of the former is much better. All cameras with the same sensor format do not have the same image quality. The sensor manf. (e.g. ULIS) will sell different sensor grades. A camera maker may chose to buy a low grade sensor and advertise it as a 160X120 or whatever the format is.
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By the way, the thermal accuracy and sensitivity of handheld thermal cameras from 160X120 to 320X240 or even 640X480 does not change that much, basically from .10C to .05C. Image quality is better but your work is based more on thermal measurements. For general inspection work, a 160X120 will get the job done.

I have seen the IRI-4010 vs. Testo 160X120 side by side many times and the image quality of the former is much better. All cameras with the same sensor format do not have the same image quality. The sensor manf. (e.g. ULIS) will sell different sensor grades. A camera maker may chose to buy a low grade sensor and advertise it as a 160X120 or whatever the format is.
So let me get this right. First, you are stating here the 100% improvement in thermal sensitivity (.1C to .05C) does not change the results much? Secondly, that major manufactures are buying their detectors from ULIS (a division of Sofradir) and that these manufactures buy lower grade detectors and then advertise a higher resolution? Which manufactures exactly are you referring to?

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Old 5/26/10, 10:09 AM
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Leslie,

The Pembroke Instruments website shows the same infrared image for their
camera with 640x480 resolution and another with 160x120 resolution.



http://www.pembrokeinstruments.com/p...al-imaging.php

http://www.pembrokeinstruments.com/_...sheet-2008.pdf

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http://www.pembrokeinstruments.com/p...al-imaging.php

http://www.pembrokeinstruments.com/_..._Datasheet.pdf

I do not think these two camera resolutions can produce the same quality images
and your ads may be misleading...IMHO. Can you explain this please?

Also... please answer Jason's question.

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So let me get this right. First, you are stating here the 100% improvement in thermal sensitivity (.1C to .05C) does not change the results much? Secondly, that major manufactures are buying their detectors from ULIS (a division of Sofradir) and that these manufactures buy lower grade detectors and then advertise a higher resolution? Which manufactures exactly are you referring to?



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Old 5/26/10, 11:05 AM
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Jason-

.05 to .1C is not very much in absolute terms, that is the point. Most home inspection applications can work with .1C or even .2C. I believe BPI/RESNET has proposed .1C sensitivity.

It is known in the industry that ULIS is a major supplier for thermal cameras worldwide. The camera makers (FLIR, Fluke, Testo, IRISYS) usually do not disclose who manf. the sensor or what grade sensor they purchased.
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Old 5/26/10, 11:12 AM
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We populate our website with images taken from both the 640X480 and 160X120 cameras we sell. Images that appear on a webpage for decoration purposes should not be mapped to any one camera. Only datasheets and powerpoint presentations should be used for that.

The datasheets and powerpoints should be used to map images exactly to one camera. You are incorrectly mapping an image to a camera. One more time because you seem to need extra explanation: use the datasheets and powerpoints to accurately map images to cameras. Got it?
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Old 5/26/10, 12:22 PM
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Leslie,help me out.

Are these pictures on the PDF ,actually from the camera with 160x120 resolution.
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Old 5/26/10, 1:13 PM
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Yes, those images come directly from IRISYS and were taken with their popular 4010 model.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 5/26/10, 1:26 PM
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The latest jpg I just posted came directly from IRISYS or were taken by students using the 4010 camera at our recent ASNT Level I Thermography class.
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Old 5/26/10, 1:37 PM
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Looks good for the price.

What would a comparable Flir or Fluk cost for that kind of performance.?
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