New Fluke Ti32

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jkaylor

John, you can twist what I said however you see fit. But you and I both know the rules that are behind advertisment & marketing of certain items. You have choosen to not obey those rules, which is your choice. Just as my previous post states, you are either a man of your word or you are not. There is no grey area, it is black and white.

JJ

I am not breaking any rules or agreements?

Inspectors get good deals all the time and tell their friends.
Are they ALL breaking some rules?

Are there rules that you should make money and they
are not allowed to tell their friends about other good deals?

Who do you think you are?

BTW... FLUKE has told me that I am not breaking any rules
because I do not sell IR cameras.

You have to obey their rules, not me. But you make money
from them, therefore you have to obey their rules.

I make no money selling IR cameras. I can say whatever
I want. This is America.

If you don't send me any students... that's OK. I can do it
without you. But if you make an agreement with me and
do not keep it, then you are the liar, not me.

InterNACHI saves members money and the IR industry
has to adjust. They have been raping the market for
too long. The old school is running head on with the
new kid on the block. Deal with it.

[Jason Kaylor]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

If you don't send me any students... that's OK. I can do it
without you. But if you make an agreement with me and
do not keep it, then you are the liar, not me.

Talk to your master, that was his decision, not mine.

You are strange bird John. I compliment your training and you somehow come up with something negative. The only agreement with you I made is that I would help promote your training. You offered me a $50 per student referral kickback. I sent you three students, and told you to keep the $50 each and every time. Other than that, I have no idea what you are talking about.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jkaylor

Talk to your master, that was his decision, not mine.

Is this your new excuse? It sounds different than what you
just said. Or.. is this the divide and conquer ploy?

[Chuck Lambert]

Hey guys..nuf is enuf..air the laundry privately before everyone starts to looks bad before their peers and customers

[Jason Kaylor]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

Is this your new excuse? It sounds different than what you
just said. Or.. is this the divide and conquer ploy?

This is getting dumb, I feel like I am on a social teenie network or something. This will be my last post on the subject, then you can have all the last words you want.

When we first started advertising here, I wanted to run a promo with Level I at a heavily discounted price. Go search for the post, it is still up somewhere. I still to this day gets calls on it once in ahwile. I called Nick before I did that and told him I didn't want to step on your toes. His exact words were "John's classes are plenty full. If it is a good deal to Nachi members then do it" So I sent him a draft of the promo. He said that it was fine, so I posted it.

I will give you this much, you work long hours. What is it, 11:30 there?

[Scott Gilligan, CMI]

Sitting here watching the drama session and figured I would chime in.

John...can you tell me what you offer besides a lower price to your students that the Fluke sales companies don't? Do you offer the option to finance or a lease to purchase option? How about a loaner program if the camera has to go into the shop for some reason? Inland marine insurance policies in case the unit is broken or stolen? Extended warranties for equipment?

Jason...I spoke with Steve and should be getting the paperwork tomorrow and it will be filled out and faxed in as soon as I get it when I am back in the office. Hope you have a camera set aside for me for the first shipment. Thanks for all the help over the last couple of months.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jkaylor

This is getting dumb, I feel like I am on a social teenie network or something. This will be my last post on the subject, then you can have all the last words you want.

When we first started advertising here, I wanted to run a promo with Level I at a heavily discounted price. Go search for the post, it is still up somewhere. I still to this day gets calls on it once in ahwile. I called Nick before I did that and told him I didn't want to step on your toes. His exact words were "John's classes are plenty full. If it is a good deal to Nachi members then do it" So I sent him a draft of the promo. He said that it was fine, so I posted it.

I will give you this much, you work long hours. What is it, 11:30 there?

OK... now we hear the truth.

Nick said, as I agree, that the pie is big enough for everyone.
You have always been welcome to advertise other IR classes.

Your agreement with me was broken by you alone, without
any explanation to me. Don't be like a teeny bopper and
say Nick told you to do it. LOL. As we can see, that is
not the case at all.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by sgilligan1

Sitting here watching the drama session and figured I would chime in.

John...can you tell me what you offer besides a lower price to your students that the Fluke sales companies don't? Do you offer the option to finance or a lease to purchase option? How about a loaner program if the camera has to go into the shop for some reason? Inland marine insurance policies in case the unit is broken or stolen? Extended warranties for equipment?

Jason...I spoke with Steve and should be getting the paperwork tomorrow and it will be filled out and faxed in as soon as I get it when I am back in the office. Hope you have a camera set aside for me for the first shipment. Thanks for all the help over the last couple of months.

I do not sell IR cameras. I have contacts who sell to my
students.

Yes... I have contacts who finance IR cameras. I know of
contacts that also offer extended warranties as well.

I mainly save people so much money that is obscene. Like
I said, my last student saved so much on his IR camera
he could literally go on a vacation to Hawaii.

Dare to challenge me with a price comparison?

[Nick Gromicko]

Jason, I see your thinking and I sympathize with it.

I see you are the type of person who can handle the truth, so here it is: Like non-members, all vendors can die and go to hell. I only care about vendors to the extent that they can help InterNACHI members. I wear one hat. I'm so simple, so predictable.

InterNACHI provides its members with about a $50,000.00/year market advantage of non-members. Anything that increases that value proposition gets my help. Anything that doesn't is of no concern to me.

Is Sam's Club any different?

[David Sorge]

I think sometimes that vendors may overestimate how much money the average home inspector makes. A really good solo artist may be able to gross $150K per year. Factor in expenses (which can be high) and you're not exactly on a path to "sick wealth".

The vast majority of solo HI's may only pull half that in this market if they're lucky. Given this reality, these "good deals" are a necessity that allow the little guys to survive and believe me...we're deserving and grateful for these perks. This is not an easy existence by any measure.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by dsorge

I think sometimes that vendors may overestimate how much money the average home inspector makes. A really good solo artist may be able to gross $150K per year. Factor in expenses (which can be high) and you're not exactly on a path to "sick wealth".

The vast majority of solo HI's may only pull half that in this market if they're lucky. Given this reality, these "good deals" are a necessity that allow the little guys to survive and believe me...we're deserving and grateful for these perks. This is not an easy existence by any measure.

You are an immoral person. You should be more considerate
of the salesman and be willing to pay a higher price so they
can make more profits. How dare you think about saving
money for yourself and family. I am shocked...

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jkaylor

Just for the score card, look up above. You have one post that tells Chris to "watch his sales drop like a rock", and another that says to "contact you if he wants to increase his sales".

Who is demanding control?

On a side note, my x took off with my kids to TX, I would pay you handsomly if you can pull some TX strings and get her in control!

I told Chris that if he attacks his clients then he can "watch his sales
drop like a rock". Does that make sense?

I then offered to help him. Does this make sense?

Where am I demanding control over anything? Whew.

[David Sorge]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

You are an immoral person. You should be more considerate
of the salesman and be willing to pay a higher price so they
can make more profits. How dare you think about saving
money for yourself and family. I am shocked...

I'm an evil one for sure