New Standards for Infrared Thermography

[Jim Seffrin]

Infraspection Institute is pleased to announce the release of eight new standards for infrared thermography. Four of the new standards cover thermal imaging applications and four are dedicated to equipment operation and temperature measurement.



Titles of particular interest to Home and Building Inspectors are listed below. These documents are a 'must have' for anyone providing infrared inspection services.

• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Electrical Systems & Rotating Equipment
• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Insulated Roofs
• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Building Envelopes
• Standard for Infrared Inspections to Detect Pests and Pest Related Damage

For information on other available titles, visit the Infraspection Institute website.

Copies of the new Infraspection standards are available in PDF format and may be purchased by calling Infraspection Institute at 609-239-4788 or visiting the Infraspection Online Store.



Jim Seffrin, Director


Infraspection Institute

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

I might be wrong but this looks to me like what I see on Training Home Inspectors .
Some thing new comes along and many want to get a slice of the cake.
We have many many trying to get new students to become Home Inspectors and we all know very very few of those who take these courses last as home Inspectors .
We then have many who all have a computer course they want the home inspectors to buy.
There are far more train home inspectors not working as Home Inspectors as there are working as Home Inspectors .
This IR training looks to me to be going the same way.
Many want to make money training others and hope to get more enthused in taking their Courses.


...Cookie

[Greg Bell]

Hi Roy,

These guys have been providing IR Training for over 20 years. But you are correct about many people wanting to jump on the band wagon for training people in IR. Personally I would rather go with someone that has been doing it for some time instead of someone that just started last year.

[Larry D. Kage]

Originally Posted by jseffrin

Infraspection Institute is pleased to announce the release of eight new standards for infrared thermography. Four of the new standards cover thermal imaging applications and four are dedicated to equipment operation and temperature measurement.




Titles of particular interest to Home and Building Inspectors are listed below. These documents are a 'must have' for anyone providing infrared inspection services.

• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Electrical Systems & Rotating Equipment
• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Insulated Roofs
• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Building Envelopes
• Standard for Infrared Inspections to Detect Pests and Pest Related Damage

For information on other available titles, visit the Infraspection Institute website.

Copies of the new Infraspection standards are available in PDF format and may be purchased by calling Infraspection Institute at 609-239-4788 or visiting the Infraspection Online Store.



Jim Seffrin, Director



Infraspection Institute

Mr. Seffrin,

After your many years of providing IR training, could you tell us what makes these standards "new"?

Thank you,

Larry

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jseffrin

Infraspection Institute is pleased to announce the release of eight new standards for infrared thermography. Four of the new standards cover thermal imaging applications and four are dedicated to equipment operation and temperature measurement.

Titles of particular interest to Home and Building Inspectors are listed below. These documents are a 'must have' for anyone providing infrared inspection services.

• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Electrical Systems & Rotating Equipment
• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Insulated Roofs
• Standard for Infrared Inspection of Building Envelopes
• Standard for Infrared Inspections to Detect Pests and Pest Related Damage

For information on other available titles, visit the Infraspection Institute website.

Copies of the new Infraspection standards are available in PDF format and may be purchased by calling Infraspection Institute at 609-239-4788 or visiting the Infraspection Online Store.



Jim Seffrin, Director



Infraspection Institute

I do not mean to cause trouble or arguement, only to prompt discussion and bring to light a few facts.

Standards usually refer to industry, professional or governmentally imposed standards (i.e., have the authority of law or industry or professional consensus behind them).

The Infraspection Institute is a good school, but it not the arbitor or industry or professional standards.

Since the post was appended to a link to a "store", I can only assume (and correct me if I am wrong) that they are trying to sell something and use the misunderstood (by many) term or standards to try to convince those on this board that there actually are professional or industry or governmental standards for these courses.

Just providing information.

[jrivera]

"Hope this helps" come on Will, that's almost like a signature line. Ya gotta put it in.

"Just providing information" ahh, I guess I'll get used to it. LOL


Mic

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jrivera

"Hope this helps" come on Will, that's almost like a signature line. Ya gotta put it in.

"Just providing information" ahh, I guess I'll get used to it. LOL


Mic

I'm trying to be more diplomatic.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Recognizing the need for standardized procedures, Infraspection Institute began publishing guidelines for thermography in 1993. Since their initial publication, Infraspection Institute guidelines have been adopted by hundreds of companies worldwide and incorporated into documents published by recognized standards organizations such as the American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM). Beginning in 2007, Infraspection Institute guidelines were updated and renamed as standards to reflect their industry-wide acceptance and the best practices they embody.

Hope this helps.

[Kevin A. Richardson]

Originally Posted by wdecker

I do not mean to cause trouble or arguement, only to prompt discussion and bring to light a few facts.

Standards usually refer to industry, professional or governmentally imposed standards (i.e., have the authority of law or industry or professional consensus behind them).

The Infraspection Institute is a good school, but it not the arbitor or industry or professional standards.

Since the post was appended to a link to a "store", I can only assume (and correct me if I am wrong) that they are trying to sell something and use the misunderstood (by many) term or standards to try to convince those on this board that there actually are professional or industry or governmental standards for these courses.

Just providing information.

Will,

You might want to do a little research before opening your mouth (keyboard).

Kevin

[John McKenna]

It's good that Will is willing to challenge the way things are said. Home
Inspectors have been sold a bill of goods for a long time concerning
infrared courses. Thanks Will, for making people think.

BTW... the ASTM and ASNT standards are not for home inspectors. Again
you have to go back ten years to figure out why old verbiage may not relate
to the HI industry standards of today and the inspectors needs as thermographers.

This kind of reasoning has gone unquestioned by inspectors not willing to think.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by krichardson

Will,

You might want to do a little research before opening your mouth (keyboard).

Kevin

I stand corrected.

My only concern was that vendors have set up their own standards, and, without references to publiclly and freely available standards, it is difficult to know what is an industry best practices standard and what is just a vendor marketing (and sales) opportunity.

I apoligize if my post implied anything else.

As previously posted, I am trying to be more diplomatic.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

It's good that Will is willing to challenge the way things are said. Home
Inspectors have been sold a bill of goods for a long time concerning
infrared courses. Thanks Will, for making people think.

BTW... the ASTM and ASNT standards are not for home inspectors. Again
you have to go back ten years to figure out why old verbiage may not relate
to the HI industry standards of today and the inspectors needs as thermographers.

This kind of reasoning has gone unquestioned by inspectors not willing to think.

One final point, and I hope no one takes this badly.

If there are industry standards for best practices (which there seem to be), why does one have to pay to read and learn from them?

Maybe this is why so many General Contractors build badly and not in accord with these standards.

Maybe the sub-contractors would read and learn from the standards if they were freely available (or only cost copying and mailing fees).

Why do the professional organizations have to charge so much for these standards.

I would posit that if they were concerned about the quality of the work done, that they would make these standards more freely available.

If they did this, would the whole construction industry, and the general public, be better served?

Again, not trying to slam. It just seems to be counter productive.

[Nick Gromicko]

One good thing about Infraspection is that they don't sell cameras. They are somewhat like InterNACHI (not accepting paid ads) in that they can freely voice their opinions about cameras and service.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by krichardson

Will,

You might want to do a little research before opening your mouth (keyboard).

Kevin

Why ruin a good thing????

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

It's good that Will is willing to challenge the way things are said. Home
Inspectors have been sold a bill of goods for a long time concerning
infrared courses. Thanks Will, for making people think.

BTW... the ASTM and ASNT standards are not for home inspectors. Again
you have to go back ten years to figure out why old verbiage may not relate
to the HI industry standards of today and the inspectors needs as thermographers.

This kind of reasoning has gone unquestioned by inspectors not willing to think.

Having not read the ASNT standard myself I can not categoricaly say that the standard does or does not pertain to our industry.

Tha being said I would be willing to bet that a clever thermographer trainer could devise a training program for HI's that met the ASNT employer certificates based on Recommended Practice No. SNT-TC-1A, devised strictly for Home Inspectors.