See Through Walls?

[James H. Bushart]

This is a new technology and is bigger than those who presently use it, apparently.

On one thread, we have a guy who quoted a price for an IR home inspection at a mere $450 who got undercut by someone else with IR for $300.

On the other hand, on another thread, someone speaks of something they call a "whole house IR inspection" and are getting $3500.

Meanwhile, there are mental midgets advertising that this stuff can see through walls.

Something tells me that there are some inspectors in the world who are going to be blowing their brains out with an IR gun if there is not some kind of controls established on this....and soon.

[James H. Bushart]

This is a new technology and is bigger than those who presently use it, apparently.

On one thread, we have a guy who quoted a price for and IR home inspection at a mere $450 who got undercut by someone else with IR for $300.

On the other hand, on another thread, someone speaks of something they call a "whole house IR inspection" and are getting $3500.

Meanwhile, there are mental midgets advertising that this stuff can see through walls.

Something tells me that there are some inspectors in the world who are going to be blowing their brains out with an IR gun if there is not some kind of controls established on this....and soon.

This stuff is making the $25 self testing mold kit look credible.

[Richard L. Bennett]

James

Remember that a lot of inspectors will make a lot of money before the government comes in an controls the profession

Is that what we want??


rlb

[bdoles2]

Originally Posted by jbushart

On one thread, we have a guy who quoted a price for and IR home inspection at a mere $450 who got undercut by someone else with IR for $300.

On the other hand, on another thread, someone speaks of something they call a "whole house IR inspection" and are getting $3500.

Actually it was $425, but who is counting?

I think the $3,500 is someone blowing smoke out their arse... JMO

[dharris]

Something tells me that there are some inspectors in the world who are going to be blowing their brains out with an IR gun if there is not some kind of controls established on this....and soon.

Hey bushy. I have an extra IR camera I'll rent to you for a couple days, as long as you leave a note, return it to sender when your done with it.

Dan H
Soon to be a certified thermographer for less than 50 bucks

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by rbennett

I too say it is wrong.

rlb

Nuff said.

[ldapkus]

This stuff is making the $25 self testing mold kit look credible.

I recently did some mold sampling as a result of this mold kit magnet. I won't elaborate any further. What ever happened to our mold/radon specialist Mr. Chroinholmnmnhng???

[ldapkus]

Originally Posted by jbushart

This is a new technology and is bigger than those who presently use it, apparently.

On one thread, we have a guy who quoted a price for and IR home inspection at a mere $450 who got undercut by someone else with IR for $300.

On the other hand, on another thread, someone speaks of something they call a "whole house IR inspection" and are getting $3500.

Meanwhile, there are mental midgets advertising that this stuff can see through walls.

Something tells me that there are some inspectors in the world who are going to be blowing their brains out with an IR gun if there is not some kind of controls established on this....and soon.



This stuff is making the $25 self testing mold kit look credible.

State Licensed IR Home Inspectors???

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by ldapkus

State Licensed IR Home Inspectors???

Frankly...I just might...the argument is certainly...nah. Not yet.

[kweiss]

Originally Posted by rbennett

All - remember that the other inspector will show missing insulation - moisture - missing rebar - dead electrical heating zones etc.

Has he proven his point?? --- Can a good IR man "see" things that a non IR person can not?

If you were looking at all points would you say that he could see through walls?

Remember he could see things that you could not and it was behind the wall


No where did someone say that they could see everything

I too say it is wrong but what do we want to do - Join them or fight them?

rlb

Absolutely, a "good IR man" can see things someone without cannot - I would conservatively say 50% of my inspections find things with IR that I would not have found without it (and they are usually significant.) It is terminology, he sees it because he "sees" a heat picture of the surface and makes determinations based on the temperatures, not because he sees behind the wall. It is actually a small point, but a very important one. I think all of us who us the technology understand what the Homesafe ad is saying, but the uneducated consumer may not, hence the danger.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by ldapkus

I recently did some mold sampling as a result of this mold kit magnet. I won't elaborate any further. What ever happened to our mold/radon specialist Mr. Chroinholmnmnhng???

Probably wasn't worth his time to post here. He's at a whole other professional level that understands what's really going on.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Probably wasn't worth his time to post here. He's at a whole other professional level that understands what's really going on.

Quite the opposite of you, evidently, you a-hole!

[klott]

The word see needs to be left out all together, maybe say something like IR allows me to detect unseen problems or the absence of materials within the walls that go unnoticed with the naked eye, then I can verify the source of/or the problem with other tools.

[Richard L. Bennett]

I am going to see the president on TV tonight.

Did you see that bad fire in Any town - any state on TV this morning.

Did you hear that 911 tape about the dog yesterday? It was all over the news

And how about "missing insulation" see IR picture below

IR camera sees IR -- regular camera see VR (visual radiation) both take pictures -- pictures are seen

Should we say that it is a radiation detector?? Would that be misleading?

We detect radiation (IR) comming from your walls.

rlb

[David A. Andersen]

Attorney:My client says you told them you could see through walls and see what no one else can see. Is this true?

Home Inspector:Well sure!

Attorney:The clients entire EFIS sided house was infested with termites, was treated and all the termites killed. Can you tell us why you "neglected" to inform the client that all the studs on the north side of the house were totally compromised by these termites?

Home Inspector:Well you see, I'm just a generalist home inspector and the conditions at the time of inspection were not conducive to IR scanning. You know, something about delta t. I heard that something about specific density would allow me to see through the wall. But anyway my SOP and inspection agreement says I don't have to inspect what I can't see!

Attorney:So you charged my client $3,500 to look through the walls and now your saying you can't see this damage?

Home Inspector:Well, I was just trying to make some quick money like the other guys out there that don't know their ***** from a hole in the ground.

OK, I was stretching it a bit!
If your not satisfied, you can have your $3,500 back seeing that is all my inspection agreement says I'm responsible for.

NOTICE THE SIMILARITY BETWEEN "NEGLECTED" AND NEGLIGENCE (which is what your going to get sued for)?