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Old 1/7/08, 6:16 AM
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What is a thermographer?

A thermographer is a thermal evaluator and imaging expert. He or she will have a solid understanding of heat transfer laws, thermal dynamics and properties of why objects are hot or not or appear to be hot or not.

A thermographer is a person who uses an Infrared Camera and his or her knowledge of the subjects they look at in combination with other non-destructive testing tools to evaluate the condition, (good or bad) of any object, subject or body in the world at large today... as long as there is a thermal difference to be detected. Otherwise objects with the same thermal radiant pattern or temperature will be invisible to each other.

Like when old Arnold Swartzenegger "fooled" the "Predator" covering himself with mud, he changed his thermal pattern to match the surrounding "temperature" of his surroundings and turned himself "thermally invisible". Eventually the mud would warm up and his "stealth" would disappear. The old movies where the "Star" looked though the wall to "see" the bad guy plotting to kill the good guy is not true. Infrared can only "see" the surface of anything. We see the effect of conduction transfer of heat from within the object to the surface and make assessment from there.

People choose to be thermographers to be in the lead of exciting new careers and challenges every day. Thermography is not a 9 to 5 job. Thermography is evolving daily into new and unusual applications... There are so many areas the same thermal expert can be involved in, with the exact same thermal camera it offers diversification like no other career...

Thermography Applications
  • Electrical inspections in buildings, plants, facilities, refineries.
  • Thermal heat loss inspections for buildings, plants, facilities, refineries.
  • Moisture contamination evaluations in buildings, condo's, plants facilities
  • Concrete integrity inspections
  • Concrete Water Heated floor inspections for leaks and temperature distribution
  • Flat roof leak detection for buildings, plants, facilities
  • Power generation generator inspections.
  • Power Plant boiler flue gas leak detection
  • Substation Electrical inspections, tranformers and capacitor evaluation
  • Overhead urban and rural distribution electrical inspections
  • Electrical motor inspections, mechanical bearing inspections
  • Heat ventilation air conditioning equipment evaluation
  • Cold Storage cooling losses.
  • Refinery process line insulation loss or leak detection
  • Refinery process evaluation
  • Heat exchanger Quality and efficiency evaluation
  • Furnace refractory (insulation) inspections
  • Furnace Internal flame evaluation and tube inspections
  • Flame propogation explosion analysis.
  • Research and development applications
  • Design proto typing evaluation
  • Motor racing suspension and tire contact diagnostics
  • Brake and engine systems evaluation for perfomance and cooling efficiencies
  • Printed circuit board evaluation and trouble shooting.
  • Medical injury examinations for whiplash, back injuries, Carpal Tunnel
  • Diseases evaluation, breast cancer, arthritis and many more
  • Dentistry, tempromandibular jaw disfunction and more
  • Sports injuries and evaluation, and therapy progress
  • Equine (horse) injury examination, stress fractures, lameness
  • Airborne applications
  • Pipeline inspection, leak detection, stress corrosion cracking areas
  • Environmental inspections, pollution dumping, thermal dumping of waste water
  • Fire Mapping, hold over fires, fireline and mop-up inspections
  • High Voltage Aerial Electrical inspections for transmission lines
  • Search and rescue
  • Covert surveillance



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Old 1/7/08, 8:10 AM
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An expert that has had 16 hours of training.

Kind of like a certified master inspector that has had 150 hours of breathing air.



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Old 1/7/08, 10:20 AM
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An expert that has had 16 hours of training.

Kind of like a certified master inspector that has had 150 hours of breathing air.

What the heck !!!!!!!

THAT........was funny !!!!!!!!!

LOL


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Old 1/7/08, 6:56 PM
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What the heck !!!!!!!

THAT........was funny !!!!!!!!!

LOL


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I agree very funny but also reality; amazing how easy to become an expert overnight



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Old 1/7/08, 7:02 PM
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How about an expert witness??

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Old 1/7/08, 7:18 PM
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I became an expert at inspecting stairways in 10 minutes: www.nachi.tv



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Old 1/7/08, 7:52 PM
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Gee you know these I think are many of the same people and they said many things about the CMI a while ago.

Not it looks like they are now jealous of those who have bought an IR Camera and getting familiar with the workings and how great IR Cameras are.
,
I wonder what they will make fun of next.

I wonder what they will think of them selves after they have purchased an IR Camera.


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An expert that has had 16 hours of training.

Kind of like a certified master inspector that has had 150 hours of breathing air.
Well said, Mr Bell. I'd give you a few greens but I can't. Maybe someone else will.

The designation "certifed" has lost value for me unless it is a from longstanding professional association that operates by industry concensus or by statute.................... not one of the walk-in or drive-through varieties!!!
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Old 1/7/08, 9:12 PM
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Well said, Mr Bell. I'd give you a few greens but I can't. Maybe someone else will.

The designation "certifed" has lost value for me unless it is a from longstanding professional association that operates by industry concensus or by statute.................... not one of the walk-in or drive-through varieties!!!
HO! HUMMMM!
This is just a continuing action by another of the CAHPI gentleman who figure that The National Certification is the only way to go.
They of course have no where in Canada to post since CAHPI shut down their Bulletin Board so they are forced to come to the NACHI BB to find out what is going on in Canada .
Then they have the nerve to insult our training .
This is the same group who would not even answer the NACHI offer of a free booth at the NACHI Conference
. This is the same group who would not offer to NACHI what they offer to ASHI to come to the Conference at CAHPI members rates .
SO sorry they feel they have to come into our home and insult our way of doing things .
NACHI is open to all CAHPI is closed to all.
Brian you have much knowledge but a small mind to come into our home and insult us.
You should be ashamed of your self violating our hospitality this way .
It is wrong and not deserved or needed

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I became an expert at inspecting stairways in 10 minutes: www.nachi.tv
Nick, I can't believe you would call yourself an expert with that 10 minutes of training where one would only retain 60% learning retention to begin with and you did not take your eyes off Paige Peters the whole time.

Now quick, quick, what is the maximum riser height for a commercial building?

6"
7"
7 1/4"
7 1/2"
7 3/4"

Now remember, you can't ask Gerry and Dale. ha. ha.

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Gee you know these I think are many of the same people and they said many things about the CMI a while ago.

Not it looks like they are now jealous of those who have bought an IR Camera and getting familiar with the workings and how great IR Cameras are.
,
I wonder what they will make fun of next.

I wonder what they will think of them selves after they have purchased an IR Camera.


...Cookie
Roy I purchased my camera before you did an by no means do I consider me an expert in IR only through CE and OJT would I ever consider the thought.

When you received your electrical license did you tell everyone that you were an expert electrican with in the first six months I would hope not. The word expert is not needed here on this BB totally out of place for the most part with perhaps the exception of Decker



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At our building science class, our instructor said the learning curve to understand the IR camera was very short, compare to learning building science.

The level II and level III Thermographers in the room said they were COMPLETLY lost when the course starting going over ALL the aspects of a building.

They all agreed that an infrared camera in the hands of a Level III Thermographer would be useless in analyzing a building.

Only a qualified and trained home inspector can make his tool work properly. The IR camera is only a tool, but it is the person's knowledge of buildings and their systems that makes the expert.

Give a new saw to a master carpenter and he can make it do wonders. Give a new saw to an idiot and he will be dangerous...



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The word expert is not needed here on this BB totally out of place for the most part with perhaps the exception of Decker



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Give a new saw to an idiot and he will be dangerous...

So.......you heard about me tryin' to fix my car eh!


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Hy Charlie
I have no idea where or why the Word expert ( Except NICK with his stair Comment ) got into our conversation .
My disagreement is with Brian A. MacNeish , Brian who comes unto the NACHI site and Makes fun of the NACHI members and our training .
I feel it is wrong he is also pushing the New Canadian National Certification as the only way to go.
You I and many more support this BB and it upsets me when None paying Home Inspectors ridicule the NACHI Home Inspector .
My words where ("and getting familiar ") I am far from an expert and have never said I was an Expert Electrician.

Thanks ... Cookie


Quote: Originally Posted by rcooke Gee you know these I think are many of the same people and they said many things about the CMI a while ago.

Not it looks like they are now jealous of those who have bought an IR Camera and getting familiar with the workings and how great IR Cameras are.
,
I wonder what they will make fun of next.

I wonder what they will think of them selves after they have purchased an IR Camera.


...Cookie



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Roy I purchased my camera before you did an by no means do I consider me an expert in IR only through CE and OJT would I ever consider the thought.

When you received your electrical license did you tell everyone that you were an expert electrican with in the first six months I would hope not. The word expert is not needed here on this BB totally out of place for the most part with perhaps the exception of Decker



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