Move In Certified Question

[Michael F. Heslop]

I have been marketing the Move in certified program for 2 Years and it’s great. Two offices in the Area have every house inspected before they go to Market.

Now some legal eagle has a Question???

Can I get some help on how to respond?

From the e-mail I received last night.


In one of your listings there is some wording that could cause some challenges
later. Using the word "certified" indicates that something, in this case a home,
has met certain standards that were set by an entity who had the authority to do so.
Is there
a certification process that you are specifically referring to on this home? If
there is a certificate from someone who is issuing them on properties I'd like to
review it for my own knowledge, if not, it's best to use another word or phrase. I
have seen
this one other time, but don't know of an actual certification process. Please let
me know if there is one out there.


Thank you in advance for all that can help

Mike

[Mark Nahrgang]

Anyone can certify anything. The home owners are certifying that the home is ready to move in and that all major concerns and safety items found on a specific date, and documented in a specific inspection report have been fixed.

Enough said.

[Linas I. Dapkus]

Contact this NACHI member. He does 70 a month and may be able to help:
http://www.nachi.org/forum/f62/did-f...et-them-38418/

[Nick Gromicko]

From www.MoveInCertified.com

MoveInCertified homes have been pre-inspected by InterNACHI certified inspectors and the sellers confirm that there are no major systems in need of immediate repair or replacement and no known safety hazards.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

So technically, the residence is not "move in certified" until the necessary repairs have been made - after the inspection? And these corrections are "certified" by the seller?

[Kenneth Lott]

Originally Posted by mnahrgang

Anyone can certify anything. The home owners are certifying that the home is ready to move in and that all major concerns and safety items found on a specific date, and documented in a specific inspection report have been fixed.

Enough said.

Yes, but are they issuing a certificate? I believe that is the question.

[Kenneth Lott]

Originally Posted by jpope

So technically, the residence is not "move in certified" until the necessary repairs have been made - after the inspection? And these corrections are "certified" by the seller?

Bingo, and the question was, is the seller issuing a certificate to back up the claim.

[Darren Spencer]

Got a link to the MIC contract?

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I use my regular contract.

[Jeffrey R. Pope]

This is one reason why I had to stay away from this program. My suggestion (which fell on deaf ears) was that the language be changed to "no undisclosed major system repairs or safety issues." The report being the disclosure.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I hear ya. Sometimes I think NACHI needs to be fitted for hearing aids. Heck, at least ideas should be discussed some before dismissing them.

[Steven J. Hesley]

Originally Posted by jpope

This is one reason why I had to stay away from this program. My suggestion (which fell on deaf ears) was that the language be changed to "no undisclosed major system repairs or safety issues." The report being the disclosure.

Jeff, I'm thinking of using MIC and you raise an interesting issue, what part of the language would be changed, also how are errors & immissions insurance companies on this MIC ? steve@twincitieshomeinspectors.com

[Nick Gromicko]

Jeff writes:

My suggestion (which fell on deaf ears) was that the language be changed to "no undisclosed major system repairs or safety issues." The report being the disclosure.

Jeff, your suggestion didn't fall on deaf ears. Your suggestion simply makes no sense.

Think it out.

A home that has a roof that is leaking and a furnace that is shot, could be Move In Certified (in your scenario) provided the bad roof and furnace are simply disclosed ("no undisclosed major system repairs or safety issues.")

Simply having no undisclosed major system repairs or safety issues doesn't mean that none exist... it just means that none are undisclosed. So I don't see how your idea is workable.

The current Move In Certified system has been used thousands of times and works fine. It drastically reduces inspector liability while not permitting mere disclosure to imply Move In Certified.

[John Harrison]

Sorry trying to play catch up here.
In a Move in Certified home, do the repairs that are reported need to be made before you would authorize the MIC sign to be placed in the yard?

Seller wants home to be move in certified
HI does the inspection
Seller repairs all reported defects.
HI confirms that systems are corrected makes notes to the report?
Sign is placed in the yard

[Ed Bancroft]

I Just looked at SOP, under Roofing. It states Inspector is not required to warrant or CERTIFY THE ROOF.
Sometimes restating the obvious ( contract states no warranty, guarantee etc) can get you in trouble!

2nd poster and soon to be member,
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