Episode 57 - Performing Your Best Inspection

[Nick Gromicko]

I personally try to alert inspectors to every "inspection-related" piece of information, product, document, website, software, service, event, tool, opinion, etc. out there... Visit www.InspectorMALL.com

None of it modify's any of InterNACHI's SOPs or does anything silly such as requiring InterNACHI members to determine (and report to our clients) as to what course of action our clients should take (correct, monitor, consult) for each and every defect on each and every report they generate. That would be so stupid that we'd have to invent a new word for stupid (No offense ASHI, just callin' it like I see it).

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I personally try to alert inspectors to every "inspection-related" piece of information, product, document, website, software, service, event, opinion, etc. out there... Visit www.InspectorMALL.com

None of it modify's InterNACHI's SOP or does anything silly such as requiring our members to determine what course of action our clients should take (correct, monitor, conusult) for each and every defect on each and every report they generate. That would be so stupid.

Then...what you are saying is...to make a buck off of a member, you will sell him something that you hype as --- "In addition to reducing the amount of time you spend filling out reports, the quality of your reports will improve and you’ll enjoy greater protection from liability." --- while thinking to yourself that it is "silly" and "stupid" and actually increases their liability instead of protecting them from it.

I understand.

You did the same thing in Kansas.

[Nick Gromicko]

I personally don't make any "bucks" off of InterNACHI members by selling them anything. The premise of your point being totally false caused me to stop reading your above post part way through.

And even if I personally did make a "buck" off of a member for selling him something (which I never have), it would not modify any of InterNACHI's SOPs nor cause anything that would require InterNACHI members to determine (and report to their clients) as to what course of action their clients should take (correct, monitor, consult) for each and every defect on each and every report they generate. That would be so stupid that we'd have to invent a new word for stupid (No offense ASHI, just callin' it like I see it).

[Nick Gromicko]

And as for your Kansas crack, I suggest you contact the Attorneys General Office of Kansas and ask them who exactly alerted them to the unconstitutionality of requiring membership in private associations like InterNACHI. I think you'll find it was the same person who fought against it every where else in N. America. Your association, on the other hand, is notoriously pro-crappy-licensing. Wash your hands, they're covered in blood.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I personally don't make any "bucks" off of InterNACHI members by selling them anything. The premise of your point being totally false caused me to stop reading your above post part way through.

And even if I personally did make a "buck" off of a member for selling him something (which I never have), it would not modify any of InterNACHI's SOPs nor cause anything that would require InterNACHI members to determine (and report to their clients) as to what course of action their clients should take (correct, monitor, consult) for each and every defect on each and every report they generate. That would be so stupid that we'd have to invent a new word for stupid (No offense ASHI, just callin' it like I see it).

Well, I see you are pulling the usual double-speak to confuse the readers...but the facts are here for anyone to review.

Bottom line....While NACHI Tv teaches otherwise, prudent home inspectors in all associations will hopefully continue to refrain from recommending a remedy for defects they report.

We also learned that NACHI sells a Narrative Library for $99 that Nick thinks is "silly" and "stupid". He warns in this thread against inspectors going beyond identifying a defect, but personally publishes that the use of his $99 CD of narratives will "improve" the report and reduce liability.

He justifies it by saying that he "personally" does not receive the money.

I think that's enough for one night.

[Nick Gromicko]

Bottom line.... Despite what some comment that you disagree with, made in a long, unscripted interview of a clearly identified manufacturers rep on a NACHI.TV show may or many not have uttered (disagree with him? Write him. The girl running the boom mic doesn't care)... ASHI requires its members to determine the proper course of action (correct, monitor, or consult) and report that determination to their clients for EACH and EVERY defect discovered. InterNACHI doesn't require anything so stupid of its members.

InterNACHI members may in some instances or may not. The point is that InterNACHI members are NOT required to... and so can't be found in breach for not doing so.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Bottom line.... Despite what some comment that you disagree with, made in a long, unscripted interview of a clearly identified manufacturers rep on NACHI.TV show may or many not have uttered (disagree with him? Write him. The girl running the boom mic doesn't care)... ASHI requires its members to determine the proper course of action (correct, monitor, or consult) and report that determination to their clients for EACH and EVERY defect discovered. InterNACHI doesn't require anything so stupid of its members.

InterNACHI members may in some instances or may not. The point is that they are NOT required to.

Why do you keep bringing up ASHI all the time? Chill out, Nick, and clean up the mess in your own yard.

You are not fooling anyone with your misleading and false statements in this thread.

You will charge a member of your association $99 (regular price of $595) for a Narrative Library that you have shared with us is "silly" and "stupid". To sell it, you will promise that it will "improve" their reports and protect them from liability....while condemning its use by others.

This has nothing to do with ASHI.

[Nick Gromicko]

Correct, it has nothing to do with ASHI, but it has much to do with InterNACHI members who also belong to ASHI (dual members).

Remember what Cohen taught us: You can be held to your advertising claims just as if they were contracts.

So if you actually determine whether your client should correct or monitor or consult with another professional, for each and every defect you uncover on each and every inspection you perform and report these instructions to your clients within each and every report for each and every defect, disregard all my posts above. You are fine in keeping your ASHI membership.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Correct, it has nothing to do with ASHI...disregard all my posts above. You are fine in keeping your ASHI membership.

Done. Thanks.

Have a Happy New Year.

[Ben J. Gromicko]

Originally Posted by rkie

I thought the Video was good almost to a tee what i do with a few exceptions.

1.The second latter on the roof was too dangerous to show on a video.
2.There was no drip leg on the gas line for the water heater.
3.I fill the sinks 1/2 way to check the traps. Just running a little water will not show leaks at the trap or trip lever assembly.
4.Why wasn't the missing crawl space insulation on the floor joists called out?

Good points. Thanks.

In SE Pennsylvania we have a lot flat roofs (or low sloped roofs under 4:12). I personally felt confident in using a second ladder, and often carried one up to a second level for getting access to the very top portion of the roof system. I also carried a 2nd ladder to use for reaching the top of masonry chimney stacks.

I think the "2nd ladder" is a case-by-case basis and depends upon the ability of the inspector. A "second ladder" similar to pulling out an moisture meter. It's not required. And you better know what you're doing.

[Buck Hartley, CMI]

Some good information. I would never set a ladder on concrete or the deck. One should wear better footware on the roof then a pair of dress shoes.The placing of the second ladder was very dangerous that should never be done no matter who you are, very lucky to walk away from that one. But who hasn't been lucky ever once in awhile.

Not everything is perfect!! As some of us think we are.

[jkogel]

Originally Posted by dmacy

How many inspectors check every window in a home?

I say take the time and do it. I recently had a home with all good glass, I was ready to report no problems, one window in the master bedroom was hard to get at, shades down, window faced north, I almost skipped it. That window was fogged up and a corner unit, would be expensive to fix. Lesson learned the easy (cheap) way.

Jim does an exceptional job of inspecting and instructing in this video. The fact that he does a fair bit more than required is fine, it's good educational info.

John Kogel
www.allsafehome.ca

[Carl E. Anderson]

James Krumm,
Why did you not point out that two of the doors hinge pins on the door where just about falling off?(01:22:07)
Was this mentioned in the report? Courious???
Carl

[jkogel]

I'd point that out to the client when we talked about undercutting the door. It's not a deal-killer IMO.

John Kogel
www.allsafehome.ca

[Ben J. Gromicko]

Originally Posted by canderson

James Krumm,
Why did you not point out that two of the doors hinge pins on the door where just about falling off?(01:22:07)
Was this mentioned in the report? Courious???
Carl

The video was edited. Some things like "loose door hinge pins" and "non-aligned striker plates" may have been deleted from the video, in order to keep the video interesting.