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Old 12/29/11, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: Deficient item affecting multiple systems

I rarely duplicate verbiage from one section to another. Each observed defect gets reported independently. If I can correlate them with a high degree of confidence I will, otherwise they are reported independently. Determining whether separate observed defects are related and share a common root cause is diagnostic and in most instances, with some notable exceptions, goes beyond TREC's SOP requirement. Using a variation of the previous roof example:
  • Roof section: Chimney flashing is deficient...
  • Attic section: Water staining & wood rot observed in attic at the chimney penetration.
  • Ceiling section: Observed water staining of ceiling at... Moisture meter indicates elevated moisture content at the stain (i.e., the stain is wet). Possibly due to defective chimney flashing.

If the chimney flashing is deficient, the roof section of the report better say so. If there is evidence of water penetration and staining in the attic, the attic section of the report better say so. If there is a wet stain on the ceiling in the family room, the ceiling section of the report better say so. You don't have to figure out if the three defects share a cause and effect relationship.

I try to say things once and once only to avoid the potential of having "multiple versions of the truth". IMO: This is also one of several good reasons not to publish summaries in your reports unless you are required to.



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Old 12/30/11, 9:11 PM
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Default Re: Deficient item affecting multiple systems

Chuck, You beat me to it!

I previously posted that continued redundancy is inefficient and not necessary. What I am saying is that you do not post the same thing in every section of the report.

If there is a damaged roof you need a roofer to fix it.

If the leak did damage to light fixture, you need an electrician to fix it.

If the ceiling was damaged you need a sheetrock contractor to fix it.

If the carpet was ruined and covered in mold you need a carpet contractor and potentially a mold test contractor.

If it didn't get fixed for a while and the floor joist rotted out, you need a structural engineer.

Obviously (though it is apparently not obvious) that you should be discussing each section that originated from the roof leak that affects that particular section because a different person or contractor is going to work on it.

The way your initial thread was worded, and still is worded is that you put the same thing in every section and you wanted Dominic to make it easy to post the same thing multiple times in multiple sections without having to do more than click your mouse.

I was against this request for software improvement because there is no good reason to do this an inspection report. Regardless of what state you're in. if you asked the question correctly I can almost guarantee you that even TREC would tell you that you can't use the same paragraph and each section. That it must be reported in each section pertaining to that section.

Every component that is damaged has a specific criteria that you must be reporting for that particular component, regardless of what started the whole chain reaction to occur.

In other words, you need to do a lot of typing. That's what you get paid for. It's not inspecting the house, it's doing the report.



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Old 1/3/12, 7:39 PM
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Isn't Licensing just great!

Tax dollars keeping an idiot like her employed in a useless job.





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