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Old 2/2/12, 12:43 PM
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Default Count or Not Count towards Wind Mit. Report

Had an Agent tell me that this should not count as part of the roof.

Was I wrong for a Wind Mit. I counted this as an attached flat roof. Which put the percentage above 10%.

Any opinions..


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Old 2/2/12, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Count or Not Count towards Wind Mit. Report

That is not attached to the roof so I would not call it part of the roof




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Old 2/2/12, 12:50 PM
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Had an Agent tell me that this should not count as part of the roof.

Was I wrong for a Wind Mit. I counted this as an attached flat roof. Which put the percentage above 10%.

Any opinions..


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What is the roof shape? (Do not consider roofs of porches or carports that are attached only to the fascia or wall of the
host structure over unenclosed space in the determination of roof perimeter or roof area for roof geometry classification).

You tell us.
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Old 2/2/12, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Count or Not Count towards Wind Mit. Report

If it is NOT under the roof (same roof of the house) it should not be consider. Is that metal roof addition under the house eve? It looks like it. The answer is NO.



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Old 2/2/12, 6:25 PM
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I'd like to see it from the top but from where I'm looking at it, I'd have to say no it shouldn't be counted as part of the roof.





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Old 2/2/12, 6:37 PM
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If it was enclosed it would count...correct

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Old 2/2/12, 7:08 PM
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That does not count since it is NOT structurally attached to the main roof structure and it is NOT living space. I would agree with Eric.



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Old 2/2/12, 8:46 PM
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That roof should not be included in the roof geometry. If it was enclosed, living space or not, it would be included in the calculation.

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Old 2/2/12, 8:49 PM
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That roof is should not be included in the roof geometry. If it was enclosed, living space or not, it would be included in the calculation.
Where did you get that from?



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Old 2/2/12, 8:50 PM
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Now, would you include it in the roof covering section?
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Old 2/2/12, 9:22 PM
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Now, would you include it in the roof covering section?
I wouldn't include it only because I'm not including it in the "roof geometry" section. That's the way I interpret it. If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

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Old 2/2/12, 9:25 PM
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Measure? I just take a video of the house and Pilar Halstead fills out the form...it super easy! Best thing is I tell them I will give them $85 an inspection and then just keep the money, they are used to it...



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Old 2/2/12, 9:33 PM
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Where did you get that from?
If you referring to the living space or not statement, an enclosed porch would be included in the roof sketch (glazed windows). As far as I can tell, it makes no mention of whether it is heated or not. What say you?
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Old 2/3/12, 12:04 AM
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If it is a patio roof not structurally connected.............



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Old 2/3/12, 2:11 AM
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Default Re: Count or Not Count towards Wind Mit. Report

does not appear (by pics) to be part of roof truss system, appears to be an enclosed patio and not structural to the roof system. I would not count it. again, based on the pics only.




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