Wind Mit Scenerio #7

[Jay C. Murray]

What is it?

Clips, Single Wraps, or Double Wraps?

[Michael J. Meeker]

Are they even coming out of the tiebeam or just sitting on top?

[Jay C. Murray]

They are coming out of the tie beam about 10 - 12 inches from the truss.

[John Shishilla]

Clips.

Metal attachments on every rafter/truss that are nailed to one side (or both sides in the case of a diamond type clip) of the rafter/truss and attached to the top plate of the wall frame or embedded in the bond beam.

[Richard Murphy]

I would mark them as "Other" and write in "Improperly installed clips or single wraps"

That would indicate that I acknowledge their presence, but they don't qualify for a discount. (The client usually understands it from this perspective)

[Michael J. Meeker]

I do not know? I know they are not done correct. I would post it on the InterNACHI message boards and get other opinions.

I would likely call it F other and write next to it see photo.

Did they all look like that or just one truss?

[Greg Bell]

Originally Posted by rmurphy1

I would mark them as "Other" and write in "Improperly installed clips or single wraps"

That would indicate that I acknowledge their presence, but they don't qualify for a discount. (The client usually understands it from this perspective)

Bingo

[Jay C. Murray]

There were many... Way to obvious many... I didn't have to look hard.

Personally I'm leaning toward clips.

Does any one have the requirements for distance between the ebeded and the truss?

[William P. Campbell]

They were obviously double wraps and the measurement was off by a foot. Can I assume they are all off by a foot and could have reached the next truss just as easily. Did they have a choice of trusses to attach to?

[John Shishilla]

Originally Posted by jmurray4

Does any one have the requirements for distance between the ebeded and the truss?

Maximum: 1/4 inch without blocking 1-1/2 with blocking

[Michael J. Meeker]

I think you "should" just be able to report what is there and let the people who use the report interpret it.

What do they have to do when someone writes other and describes something?

Does other automatically equal crap like toenails?

[dquigley]

Originally Posted by rmurphy1

I would mark them as "Other" and write in "Improperly installed clips or single wraps"

That would indicate that I acknowledge their presence, but they don't qualify for a discount. (The client usually understands it from this perspective)

I ditto that.

You cannot simply move them down to the next least desirable strap such as a clip. Straps put in this way have near zero uplift resitance. They may hold the truss for a little while until it twist loose. A Simpson H 2.5 clip would have considerably more uplift resistance than these improperly installed straps. Carpenter must have got his layout wrong in one place and continued it. Only correct remedy is to tapcon flat strap to side of tie beam with enough tapcons (shear strength) to equal pull out capacity of HETA 20 or whatever strap was used. -- Can't believe this was missed by inspector.

[John Shishilla]

Originally Posted by mmeeker

I think you "should" just be able to report what is there and let the people who use the report interpret it.

What do they have to do when someone writes other and describes something?

Does other automatically equal crap like toenails?

The only problem with that system is, they do not know how.

[Dennis J. Bonner]

yes , other = toenail

[William P. Campbell]

I'm not sure how it could be considered a clip. To me it is either a double wrap or an other( no discount ). In this case I would have to go with other. Fear of liability.