ridge cap shingles

[Kenneth Dolin]

I did an inspection on a home that had a roof replaced recently, Noticed that some of the ridge cap shingles still had the plastic strip that covers the adhesive on the bottom of the shingle, and made a note that some of the ridge shingles were not adhered.

Roofer came out and said that strip did not need to be removed and the shingles were adhered properly.

Yes or no on that?

second area the shingles are not mechanically fastened and just stuck to a pile of tar under the eve. they said they did not find any "raised shingles per my report"

final picture is the drip edge does not "finish at the edge of the wall, and the plywood substrate is exposed. It is under an eve but still I would think it should be finished properly.
roofer stated that this metal was installed at the time of build ? not making any repairs

Ohh and the lovely job of fascia installation with exposed endgrain butt joints, roofer states was installed per existing.

Anyone think I should fight this?

[Curtis M. Vilt]

Kenneth I will give you my opinion on a couple of your questions. First the plastic strip is used for packing so the shingles don't stick together in the bundle. You can see the seal strip on the middle of the shingle so it seals the bottom of the one on top.I remember seeing those things blowing around a yard when the installer was peeling them off. LOL. The shingles under the eave are stuck with plastic cement because you cannot get a hammer and nail in there. Even a hammer that was cut down is difficult. But it does look sloppy in your pics. End grain facia is common but unfinished will rot quickly.. Is that the first time you've seen this ?

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

It's not your job to "fight this".

Report your findings and move on. If your client accepts the roofer's explanation, that is their decision.

With that being said, if you committed yourself to "solve" the issue, call in your own trusted roofer for an evaluation. You do have a trusted roofer in your "Rolo-Dex" don't you?

[Larry D. Kage]

[quote=kdolin;702395
Roofer came out and said that strip did not need to be removed and the shingles were adhered properly.

Yes or no on that?[/quote]

Roofer is correct on not needing to remove plastic strip covering adhesive.



[quote=kdolin;702395
Anyone think I should fight this? [/quote]

No.

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

No more excuses from lazy roofer's...

[Kenneth Dolin]

No, seen it all before. The end grain was not called out as a fault as much as that it will be an issue in the future for wood rot, of course the pictures cant do the poor workmanship in all the areas of the fascia.

So the call out on the plastic strips is correct? that should have been removed? I saw a ton of "new shingles on the ground after the hurricanes that had those strips still attached.

It becomes my "fight" in that I have to do the re inspection.

[Curtis M. Vilt]

Kenneth those strips don't need to be removed. I agree with Jeffery this is not your fight but I find myself struggling to limit myself sometimes also. You put on the critical eye, meet a customer you get along with and the next thing you know your digging a hole. Have a great Saturday

[Marcel R. Cyr]

Ken, take a look here for your answer;
Mastering Roof Inspections: Asphalt Composition Shingles, Part 5

And check out the rest of the Index on Mastering Roof Inspections Library here;

http://www.nachi.org/mastering-roof-inspections.htm

[Curtis M. Vilt]

Marcel, I need to read your Mastering Roof Inspections. Roofing was my first trade and will find your work interesting. Thank you for your time

[Jeffrey R. Jonas]

Originally Posted by cvilt

Kenneth those strips don't need to be removed. I agree with Jeffery this is not your fight but I find myself struggling to limit myself sometimes also. You put on the critical eye, meet a customer you get along with and the next thing you know your digging a hole. Have a great Saturday

And I agree with Curtis. I have dug many a hole in my time, and probably won't stop any time soon. Just need to keep perspective and where the line is drawn.

"If you dig a hole three feet in diameter and three feet deep, and fill it back in until it's only one foot in diameter and one foot deep, what do you have?"




"You still have a hole."

Think about it.

[Kenneth Dolin]

Great, Thanks. I love that info, I wish it was in a continuous format though and not in the part by part series. I have been bouncing around sections. Thanks for all your work

[Curtis M. Vilt]

Marcel, You've got me wondering where all my modified tools are. When I find them I may post some pics. I drilled out an AJC and pressed a magnet into it worked great till you nail your glove to the roof.and then POW , OUCH , &&^$*, LOL.

[Kenton H. Shepard, CMI]

What in the world is this thread about? It seems to start in the middle of another thread and go nowhere.

[Jae Williams]

Originally Posted by kshepard

What in the world is this thread about? It seems to start in the middle of another thread and go nowhere.

It's about the effect that broken argon gas seals on single pane windows might have on solid concrete block foundations.

Hope this helps.

[wsiegel]

Originally Posted by kdolin

I did an inspection on a home that had a roof replaced recently, Noticed that some of the ridge cap shingles still had the plastic strip that covers the adhesive on the bottom of the shingle, and made a note that some of the ridge shingles were not adhered.

Roofer came out and said that strip did not need to be removed and the shingles were adhered properly.

Yes or no on that? NO. The roofer is correct on this one.

second area the shingles are not mechanically fastened and just stuck to a pile of tar under the eve. they said they did not find any "raised shingles per my report" Those shingles do not look properly installed. Cant really tell, but from the picture it looks like they are raised up and should be concern for leaking.

final picture is the drip edge does not "finish at the edge of the wall, and the plywood substrate is exposed. It is under an eve but still I would think it should be finished properly.
roofer stated that this metal was installed at the time of build ? not making any repairs. Well, if the roofer said so, then it must be true, right?

Ohh and the lovely job of fascia installation with exposed endgrain butt joints, roofer states was installed per existing. Tell them to paint the fascia and move on?

Anyone think I should fight this?

What are you going to fight? State your concern and move on.