Letter to Minister Fontana

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Letter to Minister Fontana

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Roy Cooke

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 8:48 AM       Post Subject:
jbowman wrote:
If you guys put this much effort behind NACHI, we would be way ahead of the game in Canada.

Sorry, but I'm getting tired of reading about another organization and their downfalls.

Here's an idea for you. When posting anything about another organization show how NACHI addresses the same exact shortfall or positive attribute.

If NACHI is short of fulfilling the same requirements, suggest or submit your opinions on correcting the shortfall.


Sorry if you are upset John . I am happy with very NACHI and try to do what I can to maintain our growing.
I guess if you do not wish to read do as you have told others to do not read it .
Unfortunately Ontario Home inspectors are getting little information from the Local association and this is where the come to find out what is happening in Canada.
Thursday 8:30 am the count was at 1454 Sunday 8:45 AM the count is at 1687 that is over `115 hits a day of those looking for information on the CHIBO 11 project.
You can be sure while looking here they are also seeing what NACHI is doing for all members every where.

My Thoughts Others may agree.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree

Be Happy Join NACHI
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 9:08 AM       Post Subject:
Gee John if our efforts are not good enough or do not measure up I am sorry you have a problem with that. I know what I have done up here and you know what you have done up here. I have to live up here you do not.

You must also be sorry to read the ASHI bashing too, but I don't see anyone getting their shorts in a knot over that. Whats the difference?

Who said Nachi had any short falls? No where in any of my posts did I suggest that. I don't have any beefs with Nachi but if I did and if I do the appropriate people will hear about it.


Have a nice day.

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
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but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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John Bowman
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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 11:13 AM       Post Subject:
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 11:38 AM       Post Subject:
John you maybe right. But we have seen a trend were the people you mention and I mention or Roy mentions are the organization or at the very least the defacto spokespeople.

I'll try to curb my enthusiasm. icon_cool.gif

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Roy Cooke

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 1:27 PM       Post Subject:
[quote="jbowman"]
rwand1 wrote:
You must also be sorry to read the ASHI bashing too, but I don't see anyone getting their shorts in a knot over that. Whats the difference?quote]

BIG DIFFEENCE.

Your posts seem to be more geared or aimed directly at indivduals of an organization and not the organization. For Example: Just from this thread there are these:

I do have a problem with one individual touting how the cost... (Ray)
It looks like Bill got caught in another of his many mistakes....(Roy)
I'll post the defamatory comments by your so-called chief spokesman...(Ray)
It is too bad Bill and his very few cohorts continue to say...(Roy)
Here is a snippet which I find most amusing maybe Claude and Mr. Mullen... (Roy)
What I would like to know is who does Mr. Mullen think he is?... (Roy)
I guess this makes the accusations Mr. Mullen has leveled...(Ray)
Those who belong to Bill's Closed CANUK...(Roy)
I have it confirmed that Mr. Mullen...(Ray)
So strange Bill Mullen is the person...(Roy)
Looks like the truth really bothers Dave...(Roy)
effing a hole...Dave Bottoms (Larry)
We have no defense when members of Bill Mullen...(Roy)

Do you see a pattern here? Or is it just me?


Great post John Just what the group in ASHI North likes to see A NACHI Director chastising NACHI members on our NACHI BB.

I am sorry you feel this way but I have been a member of
ASHI NORTH and was involved with various committees and know what is going on and will do my best to allow those
Canadian inspectors who do not understand what has happened and what still continues to happen.
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 1:35 PM       Post Subject:
What is even stranger is that Johns comments have percipitated yet another unwarranted email via the Nachi private messaging service by a non Nachi member. It is nice to see membership dues going to support non Nachi members rights to utilize Nachi assets in order to harassn Nachi members.

Gotta love the concept of being able to use Nachi services to send private emails. Sadly even CAHPI and OAHI do not support that feature. icon_cry.gif

Quote:
Here's an idea for you. When posting anything about another organization show how NACHI addresses the same exact shortfall or positive attribute.


Gee I would love to point out how Nachi addresses problems but there is a lack of evidence indicating they care or are prepared to do anything about it.

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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John Bowman
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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 1:51 PM       Post Subject:
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 1:59 PM       Post Subject:
John

Quote:
As you said to me in an earlier post. Quit opening them. Gromicko and our Webmaster will never do as you demand. They will never allow the blocking of usage of the NACHI IM or email system. That is out of our (me, President, or anyones) hands. Gromicko and Morrell are the only ones that make that decision.


Are you suggesting Nachi condones use of its services to allow non members to use its services to threaten, and harass? Wouldn't knowingly condoning such use particularly in light of the contents of the emails be negligence on the part of Nachi ignoring a very real and serious problem? Surely this is not the case?

Thank you.

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Roy Cooke

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 2:03 PM       Post Subject:
jbowman wrote:
Ray and Roy,

Calm down. No one is chastising you. Post as you damn well please. I only asked you two to cool it on bashing (that's right bashing) individuals. Bash the organization as a whole all you want to.

Sorry John if an individual gives out incorrect information , or tells lies, YES LIES ,
as long as I am able to breath and post I will do my best to let all know.
You can call it bashing if you wish .I do not and will stand behind my statments.
I also feel it would be to our advantage to keep these disagreements in private.
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John Bowman
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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 2:49 PM       Post Subject:
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 2:55 PM       Post Subject:
This is not acceptable.

You be the judge.

https://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/p/privms2.php

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Posted: Sun, Nov 13th, 2:32 PM
Subject: Lol some more.... Quote message
Maybe you should throw one of your patented hissy fits and threaten to quit? Then, rush over to the Inspection News forum and start trashing John and NACHI. How'd that work out for you the last time, ya big f*cking crybaby... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

You and that uneducated f*ckhead Kooke are the best entertainment our profession has ever had. You two panty-wastes should start your own show off Broadway. icon_lol.gif

D.

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 13, 2005 4:54 PM       Post Subject:
You should also know that Mr. Bottoms has once again been reported to various agencies.

Thank you Nachi for your concern.

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 7:24 PM       Post Subject:
Gee there is an overwhelming amount of feedback about CHIBO at
http://www.cahpi.ca

Apparently anyone brash enough to ask questions about CHIBO on the infamous Canuck list has been quickly drawn and quartered. It is so nice to see intimidation and tolerance alive and well on the Canuck list.

Yawn.

Anyone want to discuss the topic here? Yawn.

Everybody Loves Raymond!

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Roy Cooke

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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 8:04 PM       Post Subject:
Bill Mullen put together an Insurance survey
( https://www.nachi.org/canadianeosurvey.htm )
across Canada and 203 inspectors replied.
He did a good job and much information is given.

CHIBO put out a survey that they say will effect us all in a big way .
They are making a lot of claims in how this could effect all inspectors in Canada. they received 60 replies .
I went to the CAHPI web site (http://www.cahpi.ca/)
and sad to say not one post today or any day could I find in any way.
This makes me very nervous from what I read and how it will effect us all with only
60 respondents from about 2,000 Canadian Inspectors.
I never heard about this other survey and was a CAHPI member when it was made .
I wonder was it a closed group who were asked to voice their opinion or was there even a survey put out.
I can find no one who was asked for their opinion .
It was from Questions asked on the NACHI site that it was first acknowledged that yes there was a survey
and No it it too late for us Canadians to have any say in our future.
I printed and have read the CHIBO II Project.
This to me is far from a perfect way for decisions to be made that will effect all Canadian inspectors.
I have asked many questions and in most cases completely ignored and other cases was told nothing.
I really feel there is some thing strange going on and hope we Inspectors can get told the complete story.
What I have read is full of too many, Could, might, should , and Maybe.
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 9:18 PM       Post Subject:
Roy

You should know by now that the truth is not to be tolerated. Resistance is futile, earthling!

Take me to your so called leader....

Yawn.

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Raymond Wand
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but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 9:21 PM       Post Subject:
Roy quipped...

Quote:
I printed and have read the CHIBO II Project.


My Budgie read it too, but I had to print it for him. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 9:43 PM       Post Subject:
Actually I am lying.... My budgie can't read, but he can talk. The other day he asked for double ply toilet paper!
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Raymond Wand
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The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Claude Lawrenson

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Posted: Nov 15, 2005 11:10 PM       Post Subject:
"fo shizzle my bizzle (sizzle)"

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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 16, 2005 8:53 AM       Post Subject:
Good morning Claude,

The response to CHIBO is sure overwhelming! Is there still a move underfoot to silence any and all discussion in OAHI and CAHPI?

The silence is deafening at http://www.cahpi.ca under the message board.

Yawn.

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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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Registered Home Inspector (OAHI)
http://www.raymondwand.ca

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Raymond Wand

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Posted: Nov 16, 2005 9:02 AM       Post Subject:
I like the fact that CAHPI or OAHI or is it CAHPI-Ontario can now order t-shirts from Marks Work Wear House. But what is even better is the caveat that comes with ordering t-shirts.

Quote:
The following graphics are for use only by members with "LOGO
PRIVILEGES". Please check the By-laws. Unauthorized use or
manipulation of graphics will result in disciplinary action.


So what will happen? Has CAHPI and/or OAHI formed a fashion committee? Will the fashion police be out in force? Will non members or non logo use members be kidnapped never to be seen again? If my girlfriend wears it will I be excomunicated because I was careless with its use?

I'm sure glad the Nazis are now dictating fashion choices!

Love it! I think I will buy extra small for my budgie! icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Raymond Wand
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The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
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