Parr Inspections

Originally Posted By: Gary Van Florcke
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Sorry for posting here but I am not a member and just wanted to let those interested that my inspectors have been averaging 23 inspections a day for the last few days for PARR. If you have any questions I will be glad to answer them when available.


Originally Posted By: rchoreyii
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how can any one inspector do 23 inspections a day?



Ron Chorey


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Originally Posted By: Gary Van Florcke
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Its a long day but what the heck we are there to make life a little easier for the homeowner. You are given a laptop type system with the new speed programs, you can do an inspection in a matter of minutes especially if its a total loss and you explain to the homeowner in advance as to what paperwork they need to have when you get there.


Originally Posted By: jmichalski
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GAry,


I undestand that the logistics of contacting homeowners is difficult especially with shelter situations. Where are you deployed and what are the accomodations like?

Also, how much is the rental car costing you and how hard is it to find one?

Finally, when were you deployed and how long did it take you to get to that many inspections. Many have said that the average number being conducted per inspector is about 6 - many others feel that is an optimisitc acount. Yours is the first I have heard with such a hugh number....


Originally Posted By: Gary Van Florcke
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We are in Pontchartrain, can’t tell you about car rentals as I have my own the hotel is about 45 minutes away. We were in Houston on 8/27 and shortly there after taking applications at the Astrodome as they felt it was to dangerous at that time to due inspections. The first day of inspecting we probably averaged 17 or so. I have asked around and nobody knows of the 6 you are talking about as a matter of fact if you cant do 8 as a minimium you will probably be let go quite quickly. If you spend your evenings callingand setting up your day properly you should have no problem


Originally Posted By: jmichalski
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Gary,


This is what I am speaking of http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/viewtopic.php?t=15832

  • posted by a respected NACHI member and confirmed by at least two additional NACHI members who have direct experience.


I would be intersted to hear about how hard it was to obtain the necessary signatures and verifications of ownership from people at the astrodome. As I understand it, owners have to produce bills or other verification of their ownership status and be present at the inspection site during the inspection to sign off on it. Has this criteria changed?

Thanks for your information....


Originally Posted By: Gary Van Florcke
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It was very difficult at the astrodome , but we were not paid like we normally were we were given a per diem at that time. No the criteria has not changed you must make it clear when you set up your appointments the night before. I ask test questions to make sure they have there paperwork ahead of time. I am not rude but I am firm


Originally Posted By: pabernathy
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Sorry…17 inspections in one day by a single inspector who needs to check EVERY aspect of a house…heck I can only do 3 in a day and it takes me 3-4 hours per inspection to feel I am giving the client their monies worth and reducting my chances of errors…


Heck if do not see it remotly possible at all to do 17 inspections on homes in one day.......just not possible and do it correctly.

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AHhhhh...I should have read it better.......I would assume most are total losses so that inspection would be rather fast......really nothing to report except that it's GONE....


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Originally Posted By: tschwalbe
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Paul just to clear up some more confusion they are not Home inspections like you are used to doing. You would have to take the class to fully understand and even that does not tell the full story because every diaster is a little differnt in what and how you are required to report. I hope this helps others following this post.


Originally Posted By: Gary Van Florcke
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Just a quick note , we dont do home inspections. We walk through the house and if theres water damage 4 feet high thats what we report in that room ,period the end. If they are renters then at times we dont even inspect the house , it aint theres so we just process what is theres and thats it. Ps just so you dont think we just give money away as the press made you think in Florida , I was told only about 15% of my clients ever saw a check.


Originally Posted By: Ken Wright
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First let me thank these forums for allowing some discussion on Parr… Ive been trying to do some research on these inspections/Parr as Im signed up for a class Sat the 7th in Irving,TX.


Gary thanks for posting I cant seem to find any Parr/disaster related forums and have been searching for more info....I had to friends drive over last week for the course they had to get back for a wedding past saturday..They seemed to have felt had they stayed one day after the class deployment procedures would have begun,would this be accurate?

I live in Pensacola and am used to Hurricanes and disaster area,as my town has been one for a year now....I was already concerned about communication issues and paperwork,aswell as the actual number per jobs per day...I was glad to find your post upon search feature as the first one I read was saying 6...as you clarified I imagine the first week and two were difficult as we were cutoff from the world for 3-4 days even after Ivan.

Anyways if all goes well any ideas on what I can expect and should I come prepared for work eitherway??

I will be driving my POV and packed ready to roll as of now
Any extra info or preparedness tips to speed things up are appreciated!

Thanks All!


Originally Posted By: jmichalski
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Ken,


I fyou deploy, please try to find the time to check back in and let us know about actual numbers of inspections you are performing each day - i am VERY curious.

Gary's posts still do not match the experiences I continue to hear from people i respect who have deployed and come home. They are much closer to the 6 a day scenario.

I will be interested in your experience. Good luck!


Originally Posted By: Gary Van Florcke
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This is not my 1st deployment . nor my last. Last year between Miami , Orlando and Puerto Rico over 1200 inspections, This over a period of approxiamately 3 months. If I did 6 a day , I would probably be sent home.


Originally Posted By: rzimmerman1
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late reply. had someone call me as they knew i was out with Parr and wanted my input.


I'm presently in Brookhaven MS. I can run about 12 to 15 per day due to travel between locations. average about 30 to 45 min per inspection. Few have total damage, most have one or two rooms. Figure this is where you will be per day. Do not let the 20plus get you here.

You work 7 days, sun up to sun down. Plus nights making clls and paperwork.

Even this far inland rooms are hard to find. If you are close to the disaster figure to sleep in your car for a while, or drive a long way.

You will run into fraud and thoes with good intentions. You will meet people that have lost everything and some nothing.

THIS IS NOT A GET RICH QUICK OPPORTUNITY. It is a lot of work and no breaks. Many new inspectors bail after 30 days, never to return. Some make a carrier out of it.

Be ready to be away from your family 30 to 90 days.

I was in Gulfport for 2 weeks. one day thought I'd eat a BK. Took 1 1/2 hours for a hamberger. Inspectors in LA have reported snakes infesting homes after the flood.

Like anything else it is a job and you better expect to work. PaRR expects a minimum of 8 per day. If an applicant is relocated you may have to find a fax and swap paperwork back and forth(on your nickle) There are 100s of inspectors in MS sleeping in tents as there is no where else.

Do not get me wrong, you can make money, but you will earn it.


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Originally Posted By: jstewart1
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Rob,


Thanks for the post. Good luck, and be carefull out there.

Jerry


Originally Posted By: rzimmerman1
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must add I met an inspector today that did 25 inspections today. Come to find out every one was done incorrectly. this person would not listed to me or the other 6 inspectors in the room, one that had over 5 years of these inspections. kept insisting they were ok.


guess what? FEMA will kick every one back and they will most likly end up with a diff inspector. That inspector will not know the correction till next pay when they ged no pay. but hey they did 25 a day :{

all they did was hurt the applicant, give inspectors a bad name and loose time and money. Possibly not get called for another deployment.





Thanks Jerry. All is well.


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Originally Posted By: kwilliams
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Stay well Rob.



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Originally Posted By: Timothy R. Mencer
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I am waitlisted for the classes beginning on the 18th in Houston, but I have to travel from Portland, Oregon. Is it worth the trip, and what are the chances I’ll get into the class?


Tim Mencer


Originally Posted By: Dale Schmidt
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We are scheduled to train 11/4 in Irving, TX. We have some questions. Their e-mail said we would be deployed to Louisiana or Mississippi.


We heard they accept husband/wife teams. Does anyone know if it's true and how it works?
What are your thoughts about bringing a travel trailer?
What do you recommended bringing to disaster area in the way of food or clothing, tape measures, paper, etc.?
How to prepare for the training?
How do you communicate with PaRR and/or Homeowners if no hotels, etc.?? Phone, copies, faxes??

We're open to any suggestions or info. that would be helpful.


Originally Posted By: tmantsch
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PaRR is evidently taking all comers at this point. Car salesman, dishwashers, cableguys…and cablegals…


As long as you can pass the class, you're in.

The class is very basic.
They cover the ground rules
Test your aptitude with a computer
2 quizzes (1 over the days lesson, 1 over general construction knowledge)

A trailer is a matter of preference...I like to travel light.
If you're on the MS coast you can stay at the Navy Seabee base. Free
Free meals
Free laundry (done for you)
Free gas
Only problem is @ 1200 others are under the same roof (inspectors, red cross, scientologists....)

There is also Keessler A.F. base with decent rooms for @ 25.00/night

...both are on Pass road off of hwy 49

At this point, applicants for FEMA assistance are not too hard to contact.
Tell them they have an inspection scheduled for 2:00 pm....9 times out of 10 they will make sure to be there...

FEMA just this last week opened up the beach area (hwy 90 area) and it is surreal...

The bayou areas flooded as well... miles from the coast.

nasty stuff

...and as a side note, PaRR/FEMA servers need a serious upgrade...
that would be my main complaint as the reason for any slowdown at this point in the recovery...
I am averaging 10-12 daily

in any case if you want more info or you show up down here give me a call...972-953-7053