ASHI-only legislation fails again.

Originally Posted By: gromicko
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http://www.nachi.org/jonrudolphscum.htm



Nick Gromicko


Founder


dues=79cents/day.


I much prefer email to private messages.

Originally Posted By: gporter
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Great job Nick.



Gary Porter


GLP’s Home and Mold Inspections LLC


Orlando, Fl 32828


321-239-0621


www.homeandmoldinspections.com

Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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Thus, an aggrieved client of a negligent home inspector would have no recourse against a judgment proof inspector. If the purported rationale behind the Amendment is to protect the consuming public, this is a glaring omission.


3. The proposed Amendment is nothing more than a word-for-word recitation [with a different numbering scheme to fool the unwary] of the standards of practice of the American Society of Home Inspectors, an out-of-state organization to which Mr. Rudolph belongs, rather than the more stringent standards of practice of the Colorado-based NACHI, which is not only the world?s largest association of home inspectors, but Loveland?s, Colorado?s and America?s, as well. Because NACHI standards of practice, continuing education and annual testing requirements are so high, AIG, the world?s largest insurance company, insures NACHI members exclusively at a substantial discount from the rates it regularly charges for errors and omissions insurance. By lowering the home inspection standards to the ASHI model, the City of Loveland will instantly eliminate almost all of the inspectors in the city of Loveland and make it impossible for many to acquire errors and omission insurance to protect the consuming public.

4. The continuing education requirement is inadequate. It should be at least twenty-four (24) hours.

5. There is no annual testing requirement of the home inspector in the proposed Amendment. In an industry that has undergone and continues to undergo such rapid change as the home inspection industry, inspectors should be required to demonstrate continued competency. If the purported rationale behind the Amendment is to protect the consuming public, this is a glaring omission.

6. There is no requirement that the home inspector have any experience whatsoever. If the purported rationale behind the Amendment is to protect the consuming public, this is a glaring omission.

7. Section 3.2.5 is clearly unconstitutional. As written, one could be barred from earning a living as a home inspector on the basis of unproved allegations, while, ironically, a convicted criminal who, thus, has a resolved complaint, could operate as a home inspector with impunity, an absurd result.

8. The Amendment is tainted by its provenance. It was prepared and proposed by a home inspector who is a member of Loveland?s Construction Advisory Board and has ties to the real estate industry. The Amendment he has proposed would eliminate his direct competition which is a clear violation of 5-2(a) of the Loveland City Charter relating to Ethics.

9. Finally, despite NACHI?s having met with the Construction Advisory Board and provided Jon Rudolph with a torrent of material germane to the proposed Amendment, the proposed Amendment omits any mention of NACHI in the Acknowledgement Section, an oversight that could not be unintentional.

Respectfully submitted,


Nick Gromicko
NACHI


--
Joseph Hagarty

HouseMaster / Main Line, PA
joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com
www.householdinspector.com

Phone: 610-399-9864
Fax : 610-399-9865

HouseMaster. Home inspections. Done right.

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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Thanks for reposting the letter that we have already read, Joe. Any more old news? icon_lol.gif



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www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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jbushart wrote:
Thanks for reposting the letter that we have already read, Joe. Any more old news? ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


I can't answer for Joe, but Nachi endorig E&O is not old news.

By the way as chapter president, legislative co, and esop commitee, shouldn't you have it?


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Originally Posted By: dharris
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Quote:
2. There is no requirement to carry Errors and Omissions Insurance. Thus, an aggrieved client of a negligent home inspector would have no recourse against a judgment proof inspector. If the purported rationale behind the Amendment is to protect the consuming public, this is a glaring omission.

Respectfully submitted,

Nick Gromicko
NACHI
[/quote]

Well I'll be...... ummmm. Stunned. ![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif) ![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif) ![icon_eek.gif](upload://yuxgmvDDEGIQPAyP9sRnK0D0CCY.gif)

Finally after all this time Gromicko and I agree on something.

Good work Nick. Now are you going to make this a requirement for membership and a requirement prior to marketing your inspectors as certified??

But wait a minute, what was the name of the nachi exclusive E&O insurer that your pushing, naaa , I won't go there as I'm sure there is no conflict in that recent new agreement.


Originally Posted By: jbushart
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bkelly1 wrote:
jbushart wrote:
Thanks for reposting the letter that we have already read, Joe. Any more old news? ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


I can't answer for Joe, but Nachi endorig E&O is not old news.

By the way as chapter president, legislative co, and esop commitee, shouldn't you have it?


My business decisions are none of yours, Kelly.

NACHI has always endorsed E&O and has done much to help its members find viable sources of it and afford its members discounts. As to making it a membership requirement, that is not even close to what Nick put in his letter. Hagarty thinks because HouseMaster dictates what amount he must carry, the same should apply to all of his competitors.

Ain't gonna happen. ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


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www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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jbushart wrote:
bkelly1 wrote:
jbushart wrote:
Thanks for reposting the letter that we have already read, Joe. Any more old news? ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


I can't answer for Joe, but Nachi endorig E&O is not old news.

By the way as chapter president, legislative co, and esop commitee, shouldn't you have it?


My business decisions are none of yours, Kelly.

NACHI has always endorsed E&O and has done much to help its members find viable sources of it and afford its members discounts. As to making it a membership requirement, that is not even close to what Nick put in his letter. Hagarty thinks because HouseMaster dictates what amount he must carry, the same should apply to all of his competitors.

Ain't gonna happen. ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


Thanks Bushart.


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Originally Posted By: jbushart
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bkelly1 wrote:
jbushart wrote:
bkelly1 wrote:
jbushart wrote:
Thanks for reposting the letter that we have already read, Joe. Any more old news? ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


I can't answer for Joe, but Nachi endorig E&O is not old news.

By the way as chapter president, legislative co, and esop commitee, shouldn't you have it?


My business decisions are none of yours, Kelly.

NACHI has always endorsed E&O and has done much to help its members find viable sources of it and afford its members discounts. As to making it a membership requirement, that is not even close to what Nick put in his letter. Hagarty thinks because HouseMaster dictates what amount he must carry, the same should apply to all of his competitors.

Ain't gonna happen. ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


Thanks Bushart.


Don't thank me, kid. Thank Nick.


--
Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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jbushart wrote:
bkelly1 wrote:
jbushart wrote:
bkelly1 wrote:
jbushart wrote:
Thanks for reposting the letter that we have already read, Joe. Any more old news? ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


I can't answer for Joe, but Nachi endorig E&O is not old news.

By the way as chapter president, legislative co, and esop commitee, shouldn't you have it?


My business decisions are none of yours, Kelly.

NACHI has always endorsed E&O and has done much to help its members find viable sources of it and afford its members discounts. As to making it a membership requirement, that is not even close to what Nick put in his letter. Hagarty thinks because HouseMaster dictates what amount he must carry, the same should apply to all of his competitors.

Ain't gonna happen. ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) ![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif)


Thanks Bushart.


Don't thank me, kid. Thank Nick.



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Originally Posted By: bkelly1
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Will do!. Is this to become a requirement ?



“Do, or do not. There is no ‘try’.” -Yoda (The empire Strikes Back)

Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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Thus, an aggrieved client of a negligent home inspector would have no recourse against a judgment proof inspector. If the purported rationale behind the Amendment is to protect the consuming public, this is a glaring omission.


3. The proposed Amendment is nothing more than a word-for-word recitation [with a different numbering scheme to fool the unwary] of the standards of practice of the American Society of Home Inspectors, an out-of-state organization to which Mr. Rudolph belongs, rather than the more stringent standards of practice of the Colorado-based NACHI, which is not only the world?s largest association of home inspectors, but Loveland?s, Colorado?s and America?s, as well. Because NACHI standards of practice, continuing education and annual testing requirements are so high, AIG, the world?s largest insurance company, insures NACHI members exclusively at a substantial discount from the rates it regularly charges for errors and omissions insurance. By lowering the home inspection standards to the ASHI model, the City of Loveland will instantly eliminate almost all of the inspectors in the city of Loveland and make it impossible for many to acquire errors and omission insurance to protect the consuming public.

4. The continuing education requirement is inadequate. It should be at least twenty-four (24) hours.

5. There is no annual testing requirement of the home inspector in the proposed Amendment. In an industry that has undergone and continues to undergo such rapid change as the home inspection industry, inspectors should be required to demonstrate continued competency. If the purported rationale behind the Amendment is to protect the consuming public, this is a glaring omission.

6. There is no requirement that the home inspector have any experience whatsoever. If the purported rationale behind the Amendment is to protect the consuming public, this is a glaring omission.

7. Section 3.2.5 is clearly unconstitutional. As written, one could be barred from earning a living as a home inspector on the basis of unproved allegations, while, ironically, a convicted criminal who, thus, has a resolved complaint, could operate as a home inspector with impunity, an absurd result.

8. The Amendment is tainted by its provenance. It was prepared and proposed by a home inspector who is a member of Loveland?s Construction Advisory Board and has ties to the real estate industry. The Amendment he has proposed would eliminate his direct competition which is a clear violation of 5-2(a) of the Loveland City Charter relating to Ethics.

9. Finally, despite NACHI?s having met with the Construction Advisory Board and provided Jon Rudolph with a torrent of material germane to the proposed Amendment, the proposed Amendment omits any mention of NACHI in the Acknowledgement Section, an oversight that could not be unintentional.

Respectfully submitted,


Nick Gromicko
NACHI

_______________________________


--
Joseph Hagarty

HouseMaster / Main Line, PA
joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com
www.householdinspector.com

Phone: 610-399-9864
Fax : 610-399-9865

HouseMaster. Home inspections. Done right.

Originally Posted By: jbushart
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"Needless to say, City Council won’t be adopting Mr. Rudolph’s self-enriching proposal.


No wonder ASHI member Jon Rudolph omitted any reference to ethics in his proposed regulation! Would you trust Jon Rudolph to be honest about your most expensive investment?

A detailed brief of these events and a summary exposing this public official and warning all about this ASHI inspector is being drafted and sent to all concerned parties including EVERY real estate agent and lending institution within 70 miles of Loveland, Colorado. NACHI will be building over 200 search engine optimized websites designed to warn REALTORs and home buyers about this inspector. Inspector's Quarterly will be featuring a national story about Jon Rudolph. And, a civil law suit against Jon Rudolph, demanding reimbursement of NACHI's costs and legal fees suffered while thwarting his abuse of office actions is being prepared."

Sounds like an appropriate response, Nick. The wider this information is spread the more likely that the next puppet for ASHI HQ will have second thoughts about taking the full brunt on behalf of his association.

Please keep us all up to date as this disembowlment transpires. ![icon_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif)


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Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: jhagarty
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jbushart wrote:


"Needless to say, City Council won't be adopting Mr. Rudolph's self-enriching proposal.

No wonder ASHI member Jon Rudolph omitted any reference to ethics in his proposed regulation! Would you trust Jon Rudolph to be honest about your most expensive investment?

A detailed brief of these events and a summary exposing this public official and warning all about this ASHI inspector is being drafted and sent to all concerned parties including EVERY real estate agent and lending institution within 70 miles of Loveland, Colorado. NACHI will be building over 200 search engine optimized websites designed to warn REALTORs and home buyers about this inspector. Inspector's Quarterly will be featuring a national story about Jon Rudolph. And, a civil law suit against Jon Rudolph, demanding reimbursement of NACHI's costs and legal fees suffered while thwarting his abuse of office actions is being prepared."




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Joseph Hagarty

HouseMaster / Main Line, PA
joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com
www.householdinspector.com

Phone: 610-399-9864
Fax : 610-399-9865

HouseMaster. Home inspections. Done right.

Originally Posted By: jrivera
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BANG-ZOOOOMMMM eusa_whistle.gif eusa_whistle.gif eusa_whistle.gif


Originally Posted By: jbushart
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Gotta love it. Give 'em hell, Nick. icon_lol.gif



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www.monachi.org

Originally Posted By: John Bowman
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NACHI endorses the use of seat belts in motor vehicles.
NACHI endorses smoke alarms/detectors in homes.
NACHI endorses General Liability insurance.
NACHI endorses Flea Collars for your pets.
NACHI endorses Pick-up trucks.
NACHI endorses Satellite radio.
NACHI endorses Satellite tv.
NACHI endorses Cable tv.
NACHI endorses celibacy before marriage.
NACHI endorses the clipping of your toenails.
NACHI endorses Digital Cameras.
NACHI endorses Reporting systems.
NACHI endorses Continuing Education.
NACHI endorses the Wade v. Roe decision.
NACHI endorses Hillary Clinton.
NACHI endorses Health Insurance.
NACHI endorses Fire Insurance.
NACHI endorses Home Insurance.
NACHI endorses un-bias Home Inspection Regulation/Liscensure.
NACHI endorses Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
NACHI endorses Title Insurance.
NACHI endorses Pickled Eggs.
NACHI endorses Picled Pigs Feet.
NACHI endorses PPE for electrical inspections.
NACHI endorses wooden ladders.
NACHI endorses DSL connections.

![icon_rolleyes.gif](upload://iqxt7ABYC2TEBomNkCmZARIrQr6.gif) NACHI endorses E&O Insurance.

All of the above plus much, much, more shoud be a requirement to have membership in NACHI.


Originally Posted By: rwand1
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John


You forgot one item.

Being able to read what is written in a submission, and not what is written between the lines.


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Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
NACHI Member
Registered Home Inspector (OAHI)
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Originally Posted By: jbushart
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jbowman wrote:
NACHI endorses Hillary Clinton.


ASHI...here I come.


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Home Inspection Services of Missouri
www.missourihomeinspection.com

"We're NACHI. Get over it."

www.monachi.org

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Well…if NACHI does REQUIRE E & O Insurance…it will be the time for me to leave…should be MY choice not the NACHI.



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