QOD for 05/05/04 (structural)

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QOD for 05/05/04 (structural)

How should you report the conditions as seen in the photograph ?
Acceptable for an older brick foundation0%0
In need of some repair and maintenance0%0
Needs evaluation buy a Structural or Professional engineer100%53
Total voters: 53. This poll is closed.
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Gerry Beaumont

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Posted: May 5, 2004 11:21 AM       Post Subject:


hi to all,

another foundation question today.

regards

Gerry

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Jeffrey Pope

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Posted: May 5, 2004 11:25 AM       Post Subject:
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Kevin McMahon

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Posted: May 5, 2004 11:40 AM       Post Subject:
That's what they call a no-brainer! icon_exclaim.gif
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Timothy Gardner

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Posted: May 5, 2004 5:33 PM       Post Subject:
I particularly like the "buy a structural engineer" pun. - tg
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Lew Lewis
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Posted: May 5, 2004 8:18 PM       Post Subject:

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Gerry,

Is the brick section actually supporting the framing or was the brick added at a later time?. It looks like there may be piers as the original support. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Do you really need a P.E.?. Just tell them to remove and replace the entire brick wall; it's obviously failed.

Neal
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Ryan Jackson
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Posted: May 5, 2004 11:16 PM       Post Subject:

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Are you going to design it, Lew?

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Robert OConnor

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Posted: May 5, 2004 11:27 PM       Post Subject:
Lew Lewis wrote:
Just tell them to remove and replace the entire brick wall; it's obviously failed.

Be very careful there Lew ... not only should an HI not get into specific repair methods, but if that really is a bearing wall or masonry infill intended to shore up an undersized/deteriorated perimeter beam, the whole house may come down ... icon_eek.gif

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Lew Lewis
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Posted: May 6, 2004 8:33 PM       Post Subject:

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[Are you going to design it, Lew?[

No, I am not going to design it; that's not my job, Ryan.

Robert, if a contractor with half a brain does the repair, it won't fall down.

I guess my point is that this "get a P.E" gets carried too far, IMO. I see H.I. reports that comment on one cracked floor joist in a basement that recommend an engineer.

Neal
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Jeffrey Pope

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Posted: May 6, 2004 9:16 PM       Post Subject:
Neal,

As I see it, it is our duty as HI's to (I'll say it again) "recommend or defer to the highest authority." In this case that would certainly be a PE.

Any contractor that would take on this project would undoubtedly be required to have plans that are approved by a PE before they could even start the work or get permits.

Our recommendation for the "higher authority" of a PE is prudent as we would expect that appropriate permits be obtained prior to the commencement of any work.

If our recommendation was simply for a contractor that subsequently failed to obtain plans and permits, we could find ourselves partially liable (IMHO).

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Ryan Jackson
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Posted: May 6, 2004 9:16 PM       Post Subject:

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Lew: If you say "have a contractor with half a brain re-build your wall", you may as well have designed it. If you say "have engineer address wall failure", you have transferred the liability off of your shoulders.

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