Let's put dryer lint to good use

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Let's put dryer lint to good use

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Russel Ray

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 12:58 PM       Post Subject:
Here's a good one for you.

Enclosed patio alteration had blocked the original dryer flue termination and a new one had not been installed. Seller said that the dryer lint screen was missing, so he just hooked up the dryer flue to the water heater. Might as well burn that lint rather than have it all over the garage.

Note the fire extinguisher close by and at the ready. And the duct tape. Well, just exactly how many uses are there for duct tape?

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 1:03 PM       Post Subject:

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No, seriously, you made that up. icon_eek.gif
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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 1:06 PM       Post Subject:

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RR you win this weeks prize. That is one of the craziest things I have ever seen.
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Russel Ray

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 1:07 PM       Post Subject:
So, basically, Paul, you are as amazed as we were. We laughed all the way back to the office, and we're still laughing. And I think we'll be laughing 'till a Democrat becomes President.

But don't you agree that his reasoning was good? I mean, lint is highly flammable, so it stands to reason that it should burn pretty good and cut down on gas usage at the water heater.

The things homeowners will do. Sheesh.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 1:10 PM       Post Subject:

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did you check the charge on the extinguisher to see if it had been used any? lol
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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 1:13 PM       Post Subject:

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I can't believe the exhaust from the dryer wasn't constantly blowing out the pilot on the WH.

Absolutely amazing.

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Russel Ray

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 1:13 PM       Post Subject:
We couldn't quit laughing long enough to do much else after we saw this. Fortunately, the water heater is one of the last things we inspect (we like to run the faucets to make the water heater fire up and run for a little while before we inspect it) so I don't think we missed too much while we were laughing.

Ooooooops. I just remembered that we forgot to walk the roof. Oh, wait. Nevermind. One of my employees just told me that we don't walk roofs. Good. Okay. I don't think we missed anything. However, I'll have to write the report later because we're still laughing too much.
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Russel Ray

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 1:54 PM       Post Subject:
pdacey wrote:
I can't believe the exhaust from the dryer wasn't constantly blowing out the pilot on the WH.

I think that's fairly easy to explain. Ms. Seller washed first. Therefore, the hot water was all used up. Therefore, there was a big flame at the water heater, heating up cold water, when the dryer started blowing lint to it.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 2:21 PM       Post Subject:
That's a classic!!! icon_lol.gif
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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 2:29 PM       Post Subject:
that gets my nomination for pic of year.

BTW the T&P line terminating in the mop bucket comes in a close second.

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Russel Ray

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 2:40 PM       Post Subject:
rwashington wrote:
the T&P line terminating in the mop bucket comes in a close second.

I don't like the mop bucket?I prefer a metal pail?but that's my standard recommendation for the drain pipe there. I prefer to see if water is being discharged through the drain pipe since that would indicate that the relief valve has operated, which would indicate that there is a problem with the water heater. About half the water heaters here are in the garage with the drain pipe 6-12 inches above the floor at the base of the water heater. The other half? Those pipes go anywhere and everywhere, not good in my opinion.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 2:48 PM       Post Subject:
I get it so in a sense he was try to make an induced draft vent system. LOL

What good would a fire extinguisher be that close to a fire source? LOL

Great pic's Russel, Thanks for sharing.

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 3:43 PM       Post Subject:

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Pluses and minuses of that installation (my gawd, RR, that is a "keeper" photo).

Pluses:

- Dryer combustion air goes up water heater combustion air vent.
- do not need to figure both appliances into the "confined space" calculation
- dryer lint is wet when it gets blown in there
- dryer lint dries out, adding combustion source material to make up for the restricted combustion air
- no backdrafting when dryer it operating

Minuses:

- dryer combustion air tries to both blow out the water heater pilot and snuff it out with lack of oxygen
- dryer combustion air tries to both
- dryer lint is wet when it gets blown in there
- dryer lint dries out while in the burner area adding combustion source material in water heater burner area AND vent
- think 'chimney fire' waiting to happen

'Well, dang it Billy Bob, there's GOT to be a way to git rid of this dryer heat. Got any ideas?'

'Dang nab it, shoulda thought of that meself.'

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Russel Ray

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 4:02 PM       Post Subject:
jpeck wrote:
think 'chimney fire' waiting to happen

That's what that thar fahr stinguisher is fahr, Bubba.
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rray wrote:
jpeck wrote:
think 'chimney fire' waiting to happen

That's what that thar fahr stinguisher is fahr, Bubba.


Yall get a chimney fahr and tain't no way youse guys goin' git me near that thar stinguisher. Gottsa moov dat to da udder side da rhom.

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 4:39 PM       Post Subject:

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Well besides the fire hazard I would think the forced draft would force carbon monoxide out the gap between the top of the water heater and it's flue.

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Russel Ray

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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 4:43 PM       Post Subject:
I think the moisture from the dryer vent (H2O) combines with the carbon monoxide (CO) to create H2CO2, some sort of carbonate molecule (?), which should just turn into paste, I suppose. Maybe it makes a good glue.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2004 6:04 PM       Post Subject:
Russel R.

What was hidden in the box below the water heater. (a lot of weight for a smiple box design). I'm guessing the gas meter? I don't see any drip-legs on the water heater gas hook up. Did I miss it somewhere. Pictures are so hard to evaluate. Also looks as though there may have been moisture problems in the past. (Note wall in the foreground behind the brooms). Looks like either a patch job or very poor water proofing application.
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Russel Ray

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Posted: Nov 9, 2004 6:27 AM       Post Subject:
Hey, John.

The "box below the water heater" is simply the 18" platform for garage location.

I didn't see a drip leg on the gas either, and I never have here in San Diego. Thus, I don't call it out (I'm sure someone is going to beat me up for that one). Perhaps the next time Mr. Plumber visits me, I'll ask him why we apparently don't do that in San Diego. I did read somewhere a couple of years ago (perhaps inspectionnews.com) that some areas of the country don't require the drip leg because of the quality of the natural gas being used.

The garage is a finished garage, but a very poorly finished garage. It's obvious that it was, at one time, an unfinished garage. That's the apparent patch job that you see.

My two employees who did not have the opportunity to inspect this house with me think that I created the photo in PhotoShop. Fortunately, I have too many witnesses (like one other employee, two Realtors, a buyer, and a seller), not to mention the fact that the picture went in the report, hopefully for obvious reasons.
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Posted: Nov 9, 2004 8:12 AM       Post Subject:

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I would also write up that there is no drain pan and drainline below the unit. If it were to leak, it would cause damage to the surrounding structure.

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