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Old 12/26/18, 4:03 PM
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Whats my obligation if any? Seller is in California and has moved out. House is staged.
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Old 12/26/18, 4:33 PM
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They are the property of the homeowner. Are they a defect that affects the condition of the home? If you are concerned, advise the agent of their presence, and go about your day.



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Old 12/26/18, 4:37 PM
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I would, probably, put the pictures in the report and keep inspecting.

Those 50 cals are maybe worth $20/round my sheriff friend told me.




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Old 12/26/18, 8:15 PM
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You can't go wrong if you make accurate observations and document any such (or other) conditions at an inspection.




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Old 12/26/18, 9:32 PM
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You are not there to inspect personal belongings. Ignore them.



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Old 12/26/18, 10:08 PM
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Your obligation is to leave them alone and do your inspection.

What, exactly, is your “concern?”



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Old 12/26/18, 10:09 PM
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Who opened the box?
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Old 12/26/18, 10:17 PM
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House is vacant, with live ammo stored. No concerns, I informed the agent that they were there. Just curious what others thought.



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Old 12/26/18, 10:23 PM
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Those 50 cals are maybe worth $20/round my sheriff friend told me.
I get them in bulk for about $2.15 per round



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Old 12/26/18, 10:26 PM
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I get them in bulk for about $2.15 per round
Wow, big difference...




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Old 12/26/18, 10:29 PM
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Wow, big difference...
Yeah, but you get D-E-E-E-P discounts when purchasing 10,000+ rounds at a time!



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Old 12/27/18, 12:18 PM
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Whats my obligation if any? Seller is in California and has moved out. House is staged.
If that is how the closet is staged, I would love to see the rest of the house!

So, the seller moved out and left all that ammo there? Weird.

If they had not yet moved out, I would say there would be no need to mention it. But since it looks as though it might have been abandoned, I think the safe thing to do would be to include a comment in Summary section: "Boxes of what appear to be live ammunition were noted in the (master bedroom?) closet. Buyer may wish to request removal of these items before closing."

In a worst-case scenario, if the house burned after closing but before move-in, the insurance company might partially or fully deny the claim due to the presence of "large quantities of military grade ammunition".

I would make it a point to inform the seller's and buyer's agents as to their presence as well via email or some other verifiable means.




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Old 12/27/18, 12:29 PM
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jmo
i would have gotten the sellers phone #
contacted them while on site & negotiated a removal/disposal for a small fee so the closing could smoothly move forward
win, win, win for all involved
even if they stiffed me on the small fee ;~))
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That is exactly what I would have done.
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Old 12/28/18, 9:17 AM
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In a worst-case scenario, if the house burned after closing but before move-in, the insurance company might partially or fully deny the claim due to the presence of "large quantities of military grade ammunition".
Huh? I certainly wouldn’t call that “large quantities.” I have more 5.56 ammo in my garage safe right now. Being a TX man, I would think you would too And why would you refer to it as “military grade?”

“Military grade” would imply a lower quality ammo since most home-defense ammo and hunting ammo is high quality and/or match-ammo.

Most moving companies won’t pack, store or deliver ammo. It is the responsibility of the sellers agent to inform the sellers of the item(s) left in the residence.

Personally, I like Barry’s idea...



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Old 12/28/18, 10:56 AM
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A few thousand rounds of 5.56 isn't a large quantity. I'll shoot over 1,000 handloads in a day prairie dog hunting. Moving companies won't move it so owner has to make other arrangements. I can see from the photos that the ammo is not the only thing left in that closet. The house and everything in it still have an owner.

Keep your nose out of people's personal property.



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