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Old 7/12/13, 12:16 PM
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For the alarm leads program

How many contact attempts are made to the client?

If a client refuses the offer are they removed from the call list?

Is their information cycled to other companies or other offers?

In the alarm leads program you provide inspection companies a discount on the Recall Chek and 90 day warranty, is the inspection company ever billed back on this discount due to lack of alarm lead sales?

Does Recall Chek only use their own database of known recalls, or multiple sources to guarantee accurate findings?



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Old 7/12/13, 12:23 PM
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Ok, here are my questions.

Nathan, it's no secret you require the personal/contact information of the clients of Home Inspectors who use your service.

1. How long do you keep the Home Inspector's Client personal/contact information?

2. If the Home Inspector's Client doesn't want the Home Inspector to release their personal/contact information to anyone, do you allow or encourage the Inspector's that use your service to provide an "OPT OUT" option on their PIA for their Clients?

3. If you receive a Home Inspector's Client personal/contact information, and that Client then decides he doesn't want your services anymore, do you keep their personal/contact information or do you delete it from your system?

4. If a Home Inspector that currently uses your services decides he doesn't want to use them anymore, what happens to all of the Home Inspector's Client personal/contact data that you've already collected?
Kevin #4 is a great question.

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Old 7/12/13, 12:35 PM
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Old 7/13/13, 10:23 AM
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I have a couple more questions for Nathan, I'm not sure if they've already been asked yet or not, so here they are.

IMO these questions are also directly related to the dispersion/sale of Client personal/contact information.

1. Do you own the security system company that installs the alarm systems in your alarm leads program?

2. If yes, is that the only company that installs alarm systems or do you use other companies as well?



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Old 7/13/13, 9:31 PM
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Hey everyone, Nathan wrote this today in another thread.

Originally Posted by nthornberry
You can repeat yourself as often as you'd like Jim!

Your statement is off, with the exception of Program E that violates the pledge. Most everyone involved in our programs delivers products and services to their clients



And there we have the truth finally.

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Old 7/13/13, 9:37 PM
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Is there a question there for the NACHI TV episode Jim? Happy to answer it if you want to put it into the form of a question!
That interview is a joke and we all know it. No need to answer as you already admitted not all your programs comply. But if Nick wants to use it as a question it's his chess board he can do as he likes. I already made my checkmate move.

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Old 7/13/13, 10:16 PM
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I don't get it. I've been saying that particular program wasn't compliant from the beginning.
But you still have it fully available, making your statement and pledge that all your inspector users are Pledge compliant nothing but a lie.

You can't have it both ways Nate. George Carlin the awesome comedian (rest in eace) would have said, "Either You Are Compliant, Or You Are Not Compliant" and you admitted you are not.

It may be because of just 1 program, but that one is all it takes.

A Nick would say...Let it go Nate, the truth will set you free.

As Nick would say...Checkmate,
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Old 7/13/13, 10:54 PM
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What? Participants in that program are ineligible for the pledge.
Doesn't the home-buying public have the right to know who is making your phony pledge? Who is going to police it, you?



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Old 7/15/13, 4:16 PM
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Nick, when is the Nathan infomercial going to be released?

Any ideas on an approximate date?



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Old 7/15/13, 4:20 PM
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Nick, when is the Nathan infomercial going to be released?

Any ideas on an approximate date?
Ditto

I was about to post the same question.

When is the infomercial, I mean soft interview, going to happen?



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Old 7/15/13, 4:23 PM
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I'll be happy to answer any question specifically, including ones that may pertain to any particular Ethics Violation.
Hi Nathan,
Here is a legitimate question for you. Anyone and everyone who has been on the InterNachi bulletin board for more than six months knows that three of our “oldest and respected members”; Joseph Burkeson, James Bushart, and Michael Larson, are what can arguably be construed as “mortal enemies”! They are continuously doing battle on the InterNachi bulletin board. Not one of them can say something as innocent as “Good Morning” without the other two immediately contradicting that statement! As the majority of our members can attest, they continuously fight over anything and everything and have been doing so for over a decade!
I have been with InterNachi for one year as an “observer” (2002) and since then …10 years as a dues paying member and…. As I am sure that other “older members” can attest ….As far as I know This is the first time in 11 years that this has happened!
PS:
I have not mentioned several of the other “peaceful members” who “seem to get along with each other” but who are also against you. The list is long and seems to be growing.

Here’s my question…..
1. Why are three of InterNachi’s oldest and respected members who continuously do battle and supposedly “hate each other” United against you? What did you do that united these “mortal enemies”?
2. What services are you offering that they find so offensive that they would “put down their swords”, forget their differences, and unite against you?


Nick,
I just had a thought….. Everyone knows that there are “two sides” to every story! I am sure I’m not the only person who wants to hear just “Nathan’s version”! In the interest of fairness… Maybe this question should be answered not only by Nathan but by; Joseph Burkeson, James Bushart, and Michael Larson. Why don’t you make this interview a “call in” session!

Here’s a question for you Nick. InterNachi has approximately 10,000 members worldwide. You are the owner/founder of InterNachi. That makes “us InterNachi members” your customers/clients.
My question is…..
1. Do you sell your customers “contact information” i.e. our names, addresses, phone numbers and email addresses, etc. etc. to any second or third parties?
2. Do you profit in any way by providing our “contact information” to any vendor?
3. If so ….Why do you sell and/or give away our “contact information” without our permission or knowledge?
4. If not…. Why not? Why do you “respect our privacy”?



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Old 7/15/13, 8:56 PM
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When is the infomercial, I mean soft interview, going to happen?
If it ends up a "soft interview," I blame you. I'm not authoring the questions, you are. I'm only the talking head who asks them.
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Old 7/15/13, 8:58 PM
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If it ends up a "soft interview," I blame you. I'm not authoring the questions, you are.
Yada yada yada.

Your a big boy Nick.

You have questions and you know the entire story.

You also why many are upset with both you and Nathan.

I don't play your game. I play my own



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Old 7/15/13, 9:10 PM
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We're making a database of everyone who has either submitted a question and their question(s) and those who have complained about the interview but didn't submit a question and will link to that database underneath the video so that all can see where the interview questions came from. That way we can give proper credit to the questions asked and proper blame to the questions not asked.

Again, it's not my interview. It's yours.
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Old 7/15/13, 9:12 PM
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We're making a database of everyone who has either submitted a question and their question(s) and those who have complained about the interview but didn't submit a question and will link to that database underneath the video so that all can see where the interview questions came from. That way we can give proper credit to the questions asked and proper blame to the questions not asked.

Again, it's not my interview. It's yours.
Any idea on a date? Weeks? Months?



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