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Old 3/29/13, 8:32 PM
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Default Is this breaker an AFCI?

Did an inspection yesterday on a home built in 2012. The distribution panel had one breaker that stated on the label that it was a combination AFCI. It also had 4 breakers that only mentions GFCI on them. To meet the electrical code it would have had to have several AFCI breakers.

The home owner was involved in the construction and he insists that these are AFCIs. Is he correct or are these just GFCIs?
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Old 3/29/13, 8:44 PM
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Default Re: Is this breaker an AFCI?

It says GFCI right on the breaker.
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Old 3/29/13, 8:50 PM
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http://www.mikeholt.com/mojonewsarchive/AFCI-HTML/HTML/AFCI_Update~20030320.htm
“At least one manufacture makes a listed combination AFCI and GFCI circuit breaker.”



Do you have a pic of the complete breaker?




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Old 3/29/13, 9:04 PM
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Default Is this breaker an AFCI?

No..... No test button in place. AFCI breakers are marked as such as far as I know.
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Old 3/29/13, 10:05 PM
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This looks like what you have Robert, can't see the entire breaker. It's does not have arc fault protection.


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Old 3/29/13, 10:52 PM
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GFCI's..



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Class A would likley indicate GFCI even if it had no other markings.
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Old 3/30/13, 12:05 AM
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AFCI breakers have the test button like a GFCI except it is blue, not yellow like a gfci.

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Old 3/30/13, 9:32 AM
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Default Re: Is this breaker an AFCI?

Thanks guys. That is what I though. I just wanted to make sure before I politely told my customer that he was wrong. BTW, I should have shown the entire breaker in the photo but wanted to make sure the label was readable. The breaker has a yellow test button as some mentioned.



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I just did a new construction that had a white test button.
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Old 3/30/13, 10:39 AM
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AFCI breakers come in several colors now days. I've seen blue, green, white and yellow. GFCI breakers I've seen with red, white and yellow.



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The different colors on the Square D breakers were to differenciate between the early AFCI and the combination AFCI.
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The different colors on the Square D breakers were to differenciate between the early AFCI and the combination AFCI.
Hi Jim,
What were the colors used to differenciate?...and, is there any specific color differenciation nowadays?




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Larry, IIRC the blues were the first edition AFCI, then the green. The white is the combination type AFCI that is now required. The blue and green were not combination AFCIs.
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Old 3/30/13, 11:20 PM
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Larry, IIRC the blues were the first edition AFCI, then the green. The white is the combination type AFCI that is now required. The blue and green were not combination AFCIs.
Good information. Thank you Jim.



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