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Old 10/22/18, 6:02 PM
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Default Re: NACHI's Electrical SOP is outdated

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Two times this week I inspected 30+ year old houses with cathedral or vaulted ceilings that would likely have required a 19' extension ladder to get to the ceiling where the smoke alarm was located ..... NOT something we're gonna try to drag thru their house and set up.





When my uncle built his new house the electrician put a smoke alarm in the very center of a "great room" with incredibly high vaulted ceilings. To change the battery he had to get a hydraulic lift in his living room (one time before he moved the alarm.) Maybe we should all have a hydraulic lift for our inspections.

But on a serious note, how about a house with 10' ceilings, do I setup a ladder at every alarm to reach it if my dowel won't trigger the alarm?
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Old 10/22/18, 8:01 PM
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Does your SOP require you to test them? If so, use some type of product that the professionals use:


CRC 2105 Smoke Test Brand Liquid Smoke Detector Tester, 2.5 oz Aerosol Can, Clear: Fire Alarm Test Spray: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific



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Old 10/23/18, 2:01 AM
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Actually I think some of our inspectors must be new or under educated.


When I push the button on a some detector or alarm (90% of our clients call the detectors) .......... I know it makes a noise and if they're interconnected if they're that type AND what else do I know ...... Do I know IF they'll go off with smoke?


Thats why when I was on a standards writing committee about 30-31 yrs ago for another association WHY we said the inspector was NOT REQUIRED to do this.


BUT if you want to .......... knock your socks off and do it.



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Old 10/23/18, 11:39 PM
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If a FHA or a VA loan requires it (smoke alarms to be tested with button) then it should be in our SOP if readily accessible.



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Old 10/24/18, 12:08 AM
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James ............. Not sure what you mean??


I'm a FHA Compliance Inspector and 203k Inspector and never had a lender or HUD question the comment I posted previously. See Below




Safety Recommendation Upon Move In and On A Regular Basis: The National Fire Protection Association states smoke alarms should be changed if more than 10 years old and in our opinion you should ensure all units are present then test all units a day before taking occupancy and then monthly thereafter according to manufacturer's instructions. Current safety standards state smoke alarms should be at all sleeping rooms; on each level of the building (including basement or crawlspace); at any equipment room; on ceilings or high on walls.





Batteries should be replaced every 6 months or sooner if a smoke alarm "chirps," indicating a low battery. Smoke alarms should be replaced every 10 years, even those hard-wired, or labeled "long life" 10-year battery-types. We suggest installing these at any above areas without one.




Current safety standards recommend a CO-monitor outside each sleeping area or any equipment rooms without one.



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Old 10/24/18, 4:56 AM
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Does your SOP require you to test them? If so, use some type of product that the professionals use:


CRC 2105 Smoke Test Brand Liquid Smoke Detector Tester, 2.5 oz Aerosol Can, Clear: Fire Alarm Test Spray: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
That product/method wouldn't test for CO.
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Old 10/24/18, 4:58 AM
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BUT if you want to .......... knock your socks off and do it.
Yep. I don't know of any association or state SOP that requires you to do it or prohibits you from doing it. So like Dan says... knock your socks off.
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