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Old 7/6/13, 6:38 PM
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Old 7/6/13, 6:47 PM
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I see those all the time around here being used as a permanent support.



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Old 7/6/13, 6:54 PM
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Those are none telescoping.

Perfectly acceptable if installed right.



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Old 7/6/13, 7:18 PM
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and they meet the 3" diameter as required by the IRC.



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There is only one thing wrong. It does not meet The 2009 IRC as written.

R407.3 states that the steel columns shall not be less than 3-inch -diameter Schedule 40 pipe manufactured in accordance with ASTM A 53 Grade B or approved equivalent.

Tel-O-Post is 11 gauge or 0.1196
Schedule 40 is 0.216

So the thickness of the screw jack lacks the equivalent of the schedule 40.

Will the AHJ know what the hell I am talking about if I ask him or just forget what I saw.



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As pictured, ...
It would be considered improperly installed here...
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Could you elaborate on that Joe?



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Old 7/7/13, 12:45 PM
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I received this from my friend Barry Adair, worth reading.

http://meadvilletribune.com/local/x681016164/Linesvilles-Tel-O-Post-plant-closes

Although, the pictures says it was FHA , might not have meant it was approved by them nor did it meet the Code then and now as written.


Very seldon do I see Lolly columns the meet the friggin code as written.

Oh well, time to move on.



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Does this article need to be updated? https://www.nachi.org/adjustable-columns.htm
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Old 7/7/13, 1:30 PM
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Not as far as I am concerned.

The pictures I posted dose not meet code due to the fact it is 11 gauge and not standard pipe which is schedule 40.
The code has no mention of telescopic or screw.

It just needs to be painted inside and out and standard 3" pipe.

Wow, I haven't seen one yet that meets that code.



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You are spliting hairs Marcel, just let it go man.





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I did not write it up.



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You know most used don't meet all requirements, and we are dealing in small increments on thickness. If it fails at .216 its gonna fail at .1196





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I was just trying to point out that most Manufacturers all try to sell these adjustable colums to meet code and they don't, so what do all of you do, let it slide?

I did, but what do you say about them?



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I only call out the telescoping ones as most are marked for temporary or additional support use only.

http://www.tigerbrandjackpost.com/ja...-s-series.html

Here are the permanent primary columns.

http://www.tigerbrandjackpost.com/ad...e-columns.html



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