Question of The Week 3-18-2018

Welcome to another round of Questions of The Week!

Questions of the week:

Introduction and requirements:

A member of the Award Committee will post a question, at a random day/time.

A competing member may make one post per question thread to answer the question and the member’s winning entry must have all parts of the question answered completely in that one post. Editing your one answer post allowed will result in disqualification.

Winnings will be limited to no more than 6 times in a given year, the objective is to allow as many Members a chance to win as possible.
Any disregard to the above and divulging the correct answers will forfeit the weekly winnings.

So please refrain from participating if you have already won in the maximum for the Year.

First correct answer (as judged by the Awards Committee or Poster of the Question) wins.

The lucky winner will get a case of “Now that you’ve had a Home Inspection Books” shipped to them at their address on file. Make sure your Address on File with Inachi is correct.

Courtesy of Nick Gromicko.

Winners of the Question of The Week shall request their prize by emailing fastreply@nachi.org and submitting their Mailing address for shipping.

Allow 2 weeks for delivery.

THANKS for being here and good luck!


This week is going to be a little different from the traditional QOTW. The answers will be essay form, not multiple choice. There are multiple correct responses. All correct responses will be acknowledged as winners and be afforded all of the fame, accolades and peer recognition that go with winning, however, the physical prize will go to the first correct response submitted by a member with fewer than 500 total posts.

Here is your mission should you choose to accept it:

Being an InterNACHI certified inspector, you inspected a new house with a Jacuzzi brand Hyro-Massage Therapy Device. You included the following deficiency description in your report:

<The Hyro-Massage/Spa tub lacks access to inspect and service the pump/motor assembly.>

The builder/contractor tells your client “Well that’s just your inspector’s opinion.”

Your challenge is to defend the opinion by providing an authoritative source reference and citation so that your client can use to refute the claim that your statement is only your opinion. Choose carefully because your credibility with your client is at stake.

Valid authoritative sources include things such as:

  • Manufacturer installation instructions;
  • International and other standards (e.g., FMA/AAMA 100, ASTM…);
  • Manufacturer Industry Associations (e.g., Brick Industry Association, Fenestration Manufacturers Associations, Air Diffusion Council; DASMA…);
  • State or Association Standards of Practice;
  • Prescriptive model building codes (e.g., IRC, NEC…);
  • Articles with source references (you can use the source referenced in an article if it’s valid)
  • etc.

Things that are not authoritative sources include:

  • Random website references (e.g., inspectapedia.com);
  • Codecheck;
  • Pre-programmed defect descriptions from your report software;
  • NACHI or other training materials unless you validate and include their authoritative sources.

Provide one source which supports the deficiency description. Include: the name of the resource; reference (page, section, article, etc.); citation or excerpt that from the source; link if available.

No quick response answer to that one Chuck.

Well done. :slight_smile:

Yippee Chuck! . :smiley:

Jacuzzi Installation Manual & Warranty Information
Page 5 (Bottom of Page)

“It is the responsibility of the installer, building contractor or owner to provide access for service. Jacuzzi is not responsible for any costs relating to obtaining access for repair. The owner shall bear such costs and, if appropriate, must seek recovery from the installer.”
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http://www.jacuzzi.com/baths/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/08/Installation-Manual-LG72000-2016-8-2-16.pdf?_ga=2.61298414.353600113.1521677445-1417423543.1521677445&_ga=2.61298414.353600113.1521677445-1417423543.1521677445

Nicely played and you come in under the 500 post count wire. You win the physical prize along with bragging rights.

Congratulations to William!

There are more correct answers and sources out there…

Congrats William … you could just site common sense… Way over looked too often. :lol:
Or IRC 4209.3, NEC 680.73.

According to the 2012 IRC:

Power is supplied by an individual branch circuit
The motor is plugged into a GFCI protected receptacle that is readily accessible
Electrical equipment (pump motor) must be accessible without damaging the building structure or building finish.
Disconnecting means are required within sight of the motor
Metal parts of the bathtub must be bonded together with at least an 8 AWG solid conductor copper wire. If the whirlpool tub is constructed entirely of plastic or fiberglass, there may not be any components that require bonding to the pump motor. If metal water supply and drain piping serves the bathtub, those pipes would need to be bonded.

Dang - too late! Congrats William!

A reminder that a complete and correct answer will provide one source which supports the deficiency description. Include: the name of the resource; reference (page, section, article, etc.); citation or excerpt that from the source; link if available.

If you would like to add additional details to your original submission or remove something, please make a new, complete post.

Great question, Chuck, and excellent answer William! Kudos to you both!!

Thanks all.
Excellent question and format Chuck. I like it.

Congratulations William, well done as usual. :slight_smile:

This isn’t over.

There are still multiple correct answers out there. If Dave and Steve put their heads together, they would have one between them.

Man! Give us a brake! We ain’t lawyers.
I can’t figure out what you are wanting to be answered! LOL! :smiley:

WHAT!

Here we go …
2015 International Plumbing Code (ICC).
Chapter 421.5 Access to pump
CHAPTER 4 FIXTURES, FAUCETS AND FIXTURE FITTINGS
| 2015 International Plumbing Code | ICC publicACCESS

The page will not let me copy the code .

Section 421.5

OK! Section 421.5

That works. We have another winner!

Congratulations Roy!

There are still more correct responses out there.

OK! I figured out how to copy it…

421.5 Access to pump.
Access shall be provided to circulation pumps in accordance with the fixture or pump manufacturer’s installation instructions. Where the manufacturer’s instructions do not specify the location and minimum size of field-fabricated access openings, an opening not less than 12 inches by 12 inches (305 mm by 305 mm) shall be installed to provide access to the circulation pump. Where pumps are located more than 2 feet (609 mm) from the access opening, an opening not less than 18 inches by 18 inches (457 mm by 457 mm) shall be installed. A door or panel shall be permitted to close the opening. In all cases, the access opening shall be unobstructed and of the size necessary to permit the removal and replacement of the circulation pump.

I want to give Mr. Fetty my books . I’m up to my elbows in books…