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Old 4/15/18, 10:26 PM
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It wasn't a poll and there are no keywords in the question. In fact, there is no question.

Home inspectors aren't using ancillary agreements and clauses in Free, Online, Signable Inspection Agreement System - InterNACHI in response to a poll question. They're using them because they sold ancillary inspection services to their clients.
You can really be dense sometimes, but, I know that you know what I meant by my example, and you are just being you, so I will just be me, and walk away from your drivel once again, until I decide to wade in it once again.



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Old 4/15/18, 11:16 PM
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Jim... I suspect the 2.2 inspections (in Nick speak) is referring to ALL services performed (kind of like how FL inspectors claim WindMit and 4-Pt's as Home Inspections).
What better way to get a bogus CMI title when you don't perform full home inspections.




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Old 4/16/18, 8:28 AM
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What better way to get a bogus CMI title when you don't perform full home inspections.
But Steve... it's all about the "knowledge" and "experience", not how many one has actually performed!



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Old 4/16/18, 9:05 AM
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But Steve... it's all about the "knowledge" and "experience", not how many one has actually performed!
I've done more than I can ever remember..




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I've done more than I can ever remember..
Guilty conscience?



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Old 4/16/18, 10:29 AM
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Guilty conscience?
I don't have one.




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Old 4/16/18, 6:46 PM
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Tats what I was guessing. So basically that statistic is just a guess at best, and no actual verifiable stats exist to validate that 2.2 number you made up ?


To bad no actual real statistics exist for this. I would be greatly interested in seeing them as our biz model is based heavily on ancillary services over standard inspections.
No, it's derived from real data. Why would a home inspector send their client a radon or mold agreement or whatever to sign if the inspector hasn't been hired to do those extra inspections. I'm not following you.

Plenty of other data to support the contention that home inspectors do as many or more ancillary inspections as they do home inspections.

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Old 4/16/18, 7:19 PM
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No, it's derived from real data. Why would a home inspector send their client a radon or mold agreement or whatever to sign if the inspector hasn't been hired to do those extra inspections. I'm not following you.

Plenty of other data to support the contention that home inspectors do as many or more ancillary inspections as they do home inspections.



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Since the average inspector performs 2.2 inspections per client, most services home inspectors provide are outside a residential SOP.




So you still have not provided any actual data, just your opinion and hypothetical statistical percentage. If I am wrong, then just show the data that shows that percentage ?




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Old 4/16/18, 8:58 PM
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No, it's derived from real data. Why would a home inspector send their client a radon or mold agreement or whatever to sign if the inspector hasn't been hired to do those extra inspections. I'm not following you.

Plenty of other data to support the contention that home inspectors do as many or more ancillary inspections as they do home inspections.
I include the home inspection and whatever ancillary inspections they may want to add-on All in One agreement.
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Old 4/16/18, 10:06 PM
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I don't have one.
Conscience. Yea, we know. You show it in every post you make!



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Old 4/16/18, 11:00 PM
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So you still have not provided any actual data, just your opinion and hypothetical statistical percentage. If I am wrong, then just show the data that shows that percentage ?
Jim
There is no hard, fast, data. Unless someone uses the NACHI system to send out contracts, there is no data available for inspectors. And if NACHI is pulling information off contracts sent on their system, that is another, much bigger issue. Theft of proprietary information if you ask me.

Jeff Pope, a very busy inspector, doesn't post his. I sure don't post mine. I know of a number of large, multi-inspection local firms that don't post their data. It doesn't exist except in Nick's wild imagination.




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Old 4/17/18, 12:33 AM
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Old 4/17/18, 3:00 PM
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There is no hard, fast, data. Unless someone uses the NACHI system to send out contracts
Correct. We don't know what members who don't use our free online agreement system, our FetchReport system, the Buy Back program, our energy scoring program, our insurance program, our free report review service, our BizVelop system or our free issue resolution service do. That is true. It's possible, but unlikely, that our samples aren't representative of the industry.

Perhaps inspectors who don't use ANY of our tools are also inspectors who don't offer ANY ancillary services. I can't imagine why that would be true, but I suppose it is a possibility.

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Old 4/17/18, 3:05 PM
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And if NACHI is pulling information off contracts sent on their system, that is another, much bigger issue. Theft of proprietary information if you ask me.
We never pull (scrape) information off contracts or reports or anything. And of course InterNACHI never releases member of client information to anyone, ever.

We do look at what inspectors are offering (we create most of the inspection brochures in the inspection industry and offer 45 ancillary inspection certifications). And we watch what consumers are ordering with our programs. And stand-alone home inspections are becoming rare. Fewer inspectors offer solely home inspections (no other inspection services), and fewer consumers are ordering merely home inspections.

I can also tell you the up and coming ancillary service.... sewer scoping. Now is it going to be as big as radon testing is in some areas or mold testing in some areas? Probably not. But it's becoming a very common inspection in the Denver area.

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Old 4/17/18, 5:41 PM
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So basically it is what I thought, just a guestimate, (at best) made up stat with no real data backing it up.




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