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Old 10/6/18, 7:50 AM
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Default For those who do infrared, do you

do this


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to find this?

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If not, you should consider it.
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Old 10/6/18, 8:26 AM
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Default Re: For those who do infrared, do you

•Bath tub and basin overflow connections are not included in the scope of the inspection and are not tested.



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Old 10/6/18, 9:12 AM
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I specifically disclaim the overflow.




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Old 10/6/18, 6:24 PM
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Default Re: For those who do infrared, do you

Boy, that's a tough one. I used to be a proponent of testing overflows, but conversations at this forum changed my mind.

It's hard to decide whether or not the technique depicted would fall withing "normal use". There are many who are of the opinion that tub and sink overflow testing is beyond the scope, and given the potential for consternation (at best) and legal action (at worst) on the part of a seller for causing moisture damage, I must honestly say that I would tend to shy away from it.

An exception might be if I was doing a one-year warranty inspection, but even then I would need some kind of written release.




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Old 10/6/18, 7:30 PM
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Years ago, when I was doing IR imaging with my B400 w/temp upgrade, an image similar to Chuck's below may not show any visible signs of water damage at all, to the naked eye. YMMV, especially depending on imager.

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Old 10/6/18, 8:13 PM
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Ten seconds will give you something you can see with infrared, probably not with the naked eye. This one was not visible.

If the drain leaks, it's going to leak. It can leak a little while you're there or a lot after your client moves in and the kids fill the tub. If you're walking around the house with an infrared imager, you're already well beyond the SOP. I never want my clients to wonder why they bothered to hire me. My infrared thermography inspections are not part of the HI SOP. when I get hired to perform a thermography inspection, this is in scope.

This one happened to be a $2M custom. Both the builder and the buyer were thrilled to learn about this before they got all their furnishings and possessions in there.



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Old 10/6/18, 8:19 PM
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Ten seconds will give you something you can see with infrared, probably not with the naked eye. This one was not visible.
Exactly...or less time...depending on the imager quality.




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Old 10/6/18, 8:29 PM
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Today was a slightly different variation on the water theme. This might be out of scope too.
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Old 10/6/18, 8:41 PM
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I started doing that a couple years ago when you first posted about this topic. Haven't found a bleeder.... yet




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Old 10/9/18, 1:24 PM
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Default Re: For those who do infrared, do you

Nice tip Chuck. I would consider this when ceilings or walls are damaged below or other visible systems are apparent within the drain location.
Typically/usually, my reports disclaim overflow drains.
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