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Old 11/14/17, 12:31 PM
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Then why isn't it called an "Upgrade" instead of a "Hack"?

You are right though; larceny must show possession. If you didn't steal the upgrade from Flir, they never had possession. You just loose all support and service on the camera through Flir.

Some of us clamped on digital cameras and lasers ot the old BCams. Mfg. also added them later. Who stole from who?
It is an upgrade.
Hack is incorrect in this circumstance.
I retract HACK..




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Old 11/14/17, 12:55 PM
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What is your version number?
You can only hack 1.19.8 or lower.
Not true. All versions can be hacked if you have the skills.




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Old 11/14/17, 1:33 PM
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That's not true.
You and Charles are just to dimwitted to understand.
It is just changing the software.
Let's put it this way.
For example ...
I own two Ford trucks. One has a better motor.
I take that better motor and put it in the other truck...
Have I screwed Ford? No!
They are both my trucks and I can do as I please with them.
Talk about dimwitted!
You own both trucks!
Did you purchase both cameras? NO! You did not purchase the E-8 so you do not own the "engine" that you are swapping with!!
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Old 11/14/17, 1:35 PM
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So if you buy a truck without a hitch and add a hitch your unethical
The question is... did you pay for the hitch, or STEAL it ?!?



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Old 11/14/17, 1:57 PM
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I paid for it. The e8 in my e6 turns on from time to time. I just want to turn it on permanently. For what it is worth I tried to do this through Flir first and they wanted to sell me an e8.




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Old 11/14/17, 3:18 PM
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So if you buy a truck without a hitch and add a hitch your unethical
Yes if you used your neighbors hitch its called stealing if ya bought the hitch and installed it its called an upgrade.



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Old 11/14/17, 3:21 PM
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That's not true.
You and Charles are just to dimwitted to understand.
It is just changing the software.
Let's put it this way.
For example ...
I own two Ford trucks. One has a better motor.
I take that better motor and put it in the other truck...
Have I screwed Ford? No!
They are both my trucks and I can do as I please with them.
This has got to be the dumbest post I have ever read. Dude if you find your self in a hole quit digging



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Old 11/14/17, 3:48 PM
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So if I buy a car and they don't give me the key to the trunk, if I unlock it... it's stealing




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Old 11/14/17, 3:58 PM
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So if I buy a car and they don't give me the key to the trunk, if I unlock it... it's stealing
Heyjuz criminy! What the hell they put in the water down there???



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Old 11/14/17, 4:05 PM
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Funny how people do not understand intellectual property rights. Don't get me wrong, I thi nk that Flir's practice of crippling their hardware with firmware to manipulate pricing is reprehensible and would never survive in a competitive marketplace. Howver, if you think owning crippled hardware gives you the right to install Flir firmware that is not licenced to that unit, you are mistaken. Just like your regular NACHI membership does not give you the right to claim and use CMI status and licensed property.



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Old 11/14/17, 4:52 PM
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Funny how people do not understand intellectual property rights. Don't get me wrong, I thi nk that Flir's practice of crippling their hardware with firmware to manipulate pricing is reprehensible and would never survive in a competitive marketplace. Howver, if you think owning crippled hardware gives you the right to install Flir firmware that is not licenced to that unit, you are mistaken. Just like your regular NACHI membership does not give you the right to claim and use CMI status and licensed property.
What is more funny is these guys are the first to Bi*** if someone uses one of their inspection reports that they did not pay for but they want to do the same to FLIR



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Old 11/14/17, 5:49 PM
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Funny how people do not understand intellectual property rights. Don't get me wrong, I thi nk that Flir's practice of crippling their hardware with firmware to manipulate pricing is reprehensible and would never survive in a competitive marketplace. Howver, if you think owning crippled hardware gives you the right to install Flir firmware that is not licenced to that unit, you are mistaken. Just like your regular NACHI membership does not give you the right to claim and use CMI status and licensed property.
Not true.. It isn't "Firmware"..It is "Software"...
I have all the legal rights to my device.. Yep!
If I wanted to paint it green I could..




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Old 11/14/17, 6:27 PM
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Well this is an interesting conversation. You guys know what's right, and what isn't. I'm not going to tell you.




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Old 11/14/17, 6:32 PM
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Funny how people do not understand intellectual property rights. Don't get me wrong, I thi nk that Flir's practice of crippling their hardware with firmware to manipulate pricing is reprehensible and would never survive in a competitive marketplace. Howver, if you think owning crippled hardware gives you the right to install Flir firmware that is not licenced to that unit, you are mistaken. Just like your regular NACHI membership does not give you the right to claim and use CMI status and licensed property.
Well said Chuck.



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Old 11/14/17, 7:18 PM
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Not true.. It isn't "Firmware"..It is "Software"...
I have all the legal rights to my device.. Yep!
If I wanted to paint it green I could..
Firmware is software that communicates directly with the hardware BIOS.

You do own the device and can do whatever you want with it. Even write your own firmware. What you don't own is the FLIR software that you install in the process of hacking your device.



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