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Old 1/29/19, 1:10 PM
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On a related note--I commonly see this wiring on an electric water heater. I usually recommend that that wiring be encased in flexible metal conduit. Am I just being overly cautious? I just hate seeing romex exposed in the open.
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Old 1/29/19, 1:24 PM
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It isn't necessary, but If it were mine I'd install it in conduit.
However, Any wiring subject to damage should be in conduit.
The wiring at the WH you posted needs a strain relief installed.

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Old 1/29/19, 1:45 PM
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Thanks Roy. I did also mention the need for a strain relief in my report.
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Was I wrong to call out this "electrical connection" to an Electric water heater installed in 2001 in a house that was built in 1958?
Evidence of cloth wiring?
To my knowledge non-metallic cable was never produced with 'cloth covered wiring' the wires inside this cable are in fact thermoplastic coated, most likely rated TW or THW and in 1958 had a ground bonding wire. Cloth covered wiring was predominately installed in armored cable (bx) and conduit. It wouldn't have made it into my report as a defect.



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Old 1/31/19, 5:21 AM
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To my knowledge non-metallic cable was never produced with 'cloth covered wiring' the wires inside this cable are in fact thermoplastic coated, most likely rated TW or THW and in 1958 had a ground bonding wire. Cloth covered wiring was predominately installed in armored cable (bx) and conduit. It wouldn't have made it into my report as a defect.
I agree... got here a tad to late. I do not believe this is the bad type of cloth wiring that contains tin coated copper where the insulation breaks down. I would note the lack of a proper connector at the water heater and recommend proper ground be checked but not the wiring.




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Old 1/31/19, 5:34 AM
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In the original post it appeared to be Rayon outer jacket which is a nonissue. With that said, all wire that could be damaged needs to be protected within conduit.



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In the original post it appeared to be Rayon outer jacket which is a nonissue. With that said, all wire that could be damaged needs to be protected within conduit.
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