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Old 1/28/15, 1:10 PM
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Greg, what you are doing seems reasonable to me.
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Old 1/28/15, 2:59 PM
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See the Declaratory Statement in reply to Mark Cramer's request about the mold exemptions/allowable things home inspectors could do.

Can be found at the DBPR Home Inspector Website.

States that the mold laws don't apply if the Visible Mold is less than 10 sq. ft.
Also mentions things such as advertising, etc.

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Old 1/28/15, 4:34 PM
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See the Declaratory Statement in reply to Mark Cramer's request about the mold exemptions/allowable things home inspectors could do.

Can be found at the DBPR Home Inspector Website.
http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr...4_2011-058.pdf

"Based upon the foregoing, Petitioner, as a licensed home inspector, may advertise mold testing, sampling, and inspections, so long as he does not use the terms "certified mold assessor," "registered mold assessor," "licensed mold assessor," "mold assessor," "professional mold assessor," or any combination thereof stating or implying licensure as a mold assessor."



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Old 1/28/15, 7:45 PM
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How long do you run the test? I am not picking on you I just don't understand the method. Why is the remediation company writing protocols? It seems to me that the client would need to pay twice because the service you are providing is incomplete
Preston - I don't feel you are but don't worry I am from Miami and have thick skin.

I am sorry I did not answer you question earlier. I run each air-o-cell for 10 minutes with the air pump set at 15ml. That is what the lab recommends to get to optimal results. Remember a control outside and 1 cell for every 1000 sq ft.



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Old 1/28/15, 8:12 PM
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If hi is exempt from mold and cgc is exempt from hi, is cgc exempt from both?



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Old 1/29/15, 10:52 AM
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The way I feel is not providing the full details means the sampling is incomplete. Labs don't write protocols, remediators do not (or should not), so the client will probably be hiring someone after that does and paying twice. It is like doing home inspections and excluding a typical part of the inspection. The sampling requirement is to provide a full service. I get sent about once a week a lab result from a realtor. My first question is where is the rest of it? The client and both realtors are normally upset and don't know what the next step is or what to do with the lab results. I understand we all run businesses differently. Just a little in site on what goes on on our end.



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Old 2/10/15, 4:30 PM
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The way I feel is not providing the full details means the sampling is incomplete. Labs don't write protocols, remediators do not (or should not), so the client will probably be hiring someone after that does and paying twice. It is like doing home inspections and excluding a typical part of the inspection. The sampling requirement is to provide a full service. I get sent about once a week a lab result from a realtor. My first question is where is the rest of it? The client and both realtors are normally upset and don't know what the next step is or what to do with the lab results. I understand we all run businesses differently. Just a little in site on what goes on on our end.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars paid and it's all legal. At least a hooker earns her money and probably knows what she's doing.
After all these years, we have seen just about everyone's report in our area. Remediators, Realtors, homeowners send them every week. Seems when we get back to the office at the end of the day, there is always one to "look at" for someone. Entertaining but almost always useless.
You just have to laugh at the mold business in Florida.
ethics, professionals, protecting the client?




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Old 2/10/15, 8:03 PM
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If hi is exempt from mold and cgc is exempt from hi, is cgc exempt from both?
Yes. Try and keep up here



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Old 2/10/15, 8:18 PM
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I think any home inspector in Florida can conduct mold sampling... as long as it is in conjunction with a home inspection.
You cannot do it as a stand alone service call without an assessor's license.
Only for a maximum of 10 s/f of the total building, not room, building total.
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Old 2/11/15, 3:32 AM
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Just for everybody knows, the EPA came up with the 10 square feet rule out of thin air just as they did years before about bleaching killing mold on porous surfaces.



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Old 3/16/15, 12:44 PM
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I am making the extraordinary assumption that if you are a FL certified HI that is performing a mold test (not a FL certified mold assessor) than it is not mandatory to carry the 1,000,000 mold insurance?

I understand it would be wise to carry the insurance, etc., However, my specific question is: Is the 1,000,000 required? If you are an HI performing mold tests and not a Florida Certified Mold Assessor.

Thanks for any clarification that you might offer.




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Old 3/17/15, 2:00 PM
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If I remember correctly the 10 sq ft rule was to keep HIs out of trouble by allowing them to use the term mold and alike without violating the MRSA licensing laws. Especially since no other remediation would be needed if less than 10 sq ft, except cleaning.

Currently if you start noting wdo's you can end up in trouble with DACS.



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Old 3/17/15, 4:44 PM
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You're playing with fire if you go by that 10 ft. rule . How are you going to explain that when they opened up the wall in the entire wall had mold in it that oh I only saw a little bit on the outside.

as were mentioning termites in your report, you're really not supposed to do it but we had that fight with DACS before and quite honestly if I know what a termite is I have no problem putting it in my report with the picture
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Old 3/18/15, 3:58 PM
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I agree with wsiegel. How do you know how much mold is present. There would be no way to know unless you remove the wall. I am not willilng to take that chance. I wil leave the mold testing up to the mold assessors.
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Old 3/18/15, 7:08 PM
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I agree with wsiegel. How do you know how much mold is present. There would be no way to know unless you remove the wall. I am not willilng to take that chance. I wil leave the mold testing up to the mold assessors.




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